So a bit more on this. I turned back the kickstart lever about 30degrees. That has shortened its throw, and seems that the spring is staying retained. I have in the meantime ordered a replacement spring from Baxter's Cycle, and I'm hoping this would be the cure. I'm also using a later Commando Kick arm, not the straight up and down style that was on these early AMC boxes. So my logic that the commando arm has a bit more rotation to it, and Maybe that's why it's popping out.That spring looks really wound up to me. You aren't able to wind that spring all the way around the shaft when installing it are you? Probably impossible. It should do the job of returning the kick start just being brought back enough to get it in the last hole it needs to get in. No extra winding. Just a thought
Here is some shade tree engineering thinking. If the kick stroke is shortened does the spring stay in place? You could move the kick start further back on the splines to reduce your typical kick stroke a little. that may be on the borderline of being ridiculous though.
I know the feeling of tossing something out I didn't think I'd need anymore. Not a pleasant one.
No, the early kickers are more up and down. This was before I realized it doesn't work with these rear sets.Is kickshaft on the early bike the same as in the video?
From what I recall my kicker was just like the video, shaft hole at about 8 or 9 o'clock when against the stop.
It doesn't get a huge preload, as you can see in the video when he uses the puller to hook the other end over the peg.
I seem to remember it is not. From when I had my issues I seem to remember that switching to a Commando spring required a Commando inner gearbox cover and kickstarter shaft.Sorry, I should have said Kick start shaft.
Is the hole for the spring oriented the same way as the Commando KS shaft in the Hemmings video?
There is only a small amount of spring windup needed in the video.
Agree about the switch over time line but I seem to remember that the hole in the kickstarter shaft is located differently. I know I've seen a discussion about this. Maybe on the NOC site.Looks like 62 on to the end of the Commandos all used the same KS shaft.
Early slimline FB used the spring like Sean's , late Slimline FB had the peg like the Commando.
So from all of that, I think the hole location in the shaft ought to be aligned the same as in the Hemmings video.
But I think these are the aftermarket pattern shafts right? An earlier shaft would still just have one hole, no? Seeing as how the later shaft had yet to be invented.
However, your "1962" model's gearbox (NA1001 onwards) should have the later 040477 kickstart shaft, 040475 spring, and 040467 inner cover (with the spring peg) so the question is why doesn't it have the later inner cover unless it's not an actual '62 gearbox?
I had a funny feeling it wouldn't be that simple.You might already know this- the 650ss mainshaft is different from the Commando mainshaft due to the different clutches.