Triumph crankcase vent

If your post is not about a Norton Commando, post here.

Triumph crankcase vent

Postby geo46er » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:11 am

Hi,
I am about to install a primary belt drive on a 1970 Triumph TR6C. I have ordered the kit from MAPcycle. Due to the fact that from 70 on Triumph began venting the crankcase through the primary case I have to install an alternative crankcase vent system. Fortunately MAP has included a vent kit along with the belt kit (supposedly has a reed valve). From what I understand the placement of the kit is left up to the installer. If anyone out there has ever installed the MAP vent kit and would care to share their experience I'd be happy to hear from you.

GB
geo46er
 
Posts: 359
Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:20 pm
Location: Montague Massachusetts

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby swooshdave » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:14 am

geo46er wrote:Hi,
I am about to install a primary belt drive on a 1970 Triumph TR6C. I have ordered the kit from MAPcycle. Due to the fact that from 70 on Triumph began venting the crankcase through the primary case I have to install an alternative crankcase vent system. Fortunately MAP has included a vent kit along with the belt kit (supposedly has a reed valve). From what I understand the placement of the kit is left up to the installer. If anyone out there has ever installed the MAP vent kit and would care to share their experience I'd be happy to hear from you.

GB


No but I'd love to see the instructions when you get them.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

Matt
User avatar
swooshdave
 
Posts: 6416
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:53 pm
Location: Portland, Oregon

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby geo46er » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:48 pm

Hi Dave,
I hope you see this. MAP sent their breather kit (MAP2088) along with their primary belt kit. What they give you is about 4 feet of 1/2 diameter clear plastic hose, an inline reed valve (large round body sort of like the Ducati ones), three little rivets with which to plug off the oil passages between the primary case and crankcase, a crankshaft seal (as it is not sealed between the crankcase and primary case), and a fitting to connect the hose to the back of the crankcase. On the 1970 model there is a plug (TDC indicator plug) right into the crankcase just under the carb. The fitting (a hose barb) just crews right into that plug hole and presto new crankcase vent.
geo46er
 
Posts: 359
Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:20 pm
Location: Montague Massachusetts

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby willh » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:42 pm

I've seen it done on the front motor mount. Wholes drilled through the case into the mount cavity and the cavity drilled and tapped for fitting. Sorry no photos...
User avatar
willh
 
Posts: 385
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:39 pm
Location: Shefford, Quebec

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby Webby03 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:02 pm

willh wrote:I've seen it done on the front motor mount. Wholes drilled through the case into the mount cavity and the cavity drilled and tapped for fitting. Sorry no photos...


Something like this?
The pic is taken from the Dresda website.

Image

Webby
Webby03
 
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:32 am
Location: Near Brussels, Belgium

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby grandpaul » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:46 pm

That's possibly the best place to put one, Webby. You can employ a large one-way reed valve there (in-line), and you can implement drain-back provisions from the cavity, at the bottom.
GrandPaul
author "Old Bikes"
too many bikes to list, including a MkIII Interstate & Dunstallized Combat
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5292
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby willh » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:19 pm

Inside the cavity, something along the lines of nylon mesh was used on my friends bike to aid in oil separation. A Harley one-way flapper was used but didn`t work out so ended up breathing through hose that ended at the license plate
User avatar
willh
 
Posts: 385
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:39 pm
Location: Shefford, Quebec

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby willh » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:37 pm

Webby03 wrote:
willh wrote:I've seen it done on the front motor mount. Wholes drilled through the case into the mount cavity and the cavity drilled and tapped for fitting. Sorry no photos...


Something like this?
The pic is taken from the Dresda website.

Image

Webby

Yup,
Image
Only picture I have, you can just barely make it out....clear braided tubing.
User avatar
willh
 
Posts: 385
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:39 pm
Location: Shefford, Quebec

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby grandpaul » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:17 am

That little collection would sure look good in my driveway...
GrandPaul
author "Old Bikes"
too many bikes to list, including a MkIII Interstate & Dunstallized Combat
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5292
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby willh » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:28 pm

grandpaul wrote:That little collection would sure look good in my driveway...

The one on the right is my favorite...
User avatar
willh
 
Posts: 385
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:39 pm
Location: Shefford, Quebec

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby swooshdave » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:21 pm

grandpaul wrote:That little collection would sure look good in my driveway...


Any driveway.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

Matt
User avatar
swooshdave
 
Posts: 6416
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:53 pm
Location: Portland, Oregon

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby Webby03 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:03 am

That is a very nice collection you've got there Will.

Webby
Webby03
 
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:32 am
Location: Near Brussels, Belgium

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby willh » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:15 am

Webby03 wrote:That is a very nice collection you've got there Will.

Webby

I wish... Not mine but one of my friends.
User avatar
willh
 
Posts: 385
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:39 pm
Location: Shefford, Quebec

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby Webby03 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:42 am

grandpaul wrote:That's possibly the best place to put one, Webby. You can employ a large one-way reed valve there (in-line), and you can implement drain-back provisions from the cavity, at the bottom.


I agree GPZ,
Pretty much all the specialists I've spoken to think that the forward mount is the best place for the breather.
The problem with using the timing plug at the back of the crankcase is that it's right in line with oil spray from the flywheel.
One thing, I don't know is how do you modify the area between the crankcase and the mount? I was thinking that maybe drilling two 3/8" holes would probably be enough. Any suggestions?

Webby
Webby03
 
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:32 am
Location: Near Brussels, Belgium

Re: Triumph crankcase vent

Postby Webby03 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:43 am

willh wrote:
Webby03 wrote:That is a very nice collection you've got there Will.

Webby

I wish... Not mine but one of my friends.


Your friend is a very lucky bloke! :)
Have you managed to blag a ride on the Norvin ?

Webby
Webby03
 
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:32 am
Location: Near Brussels, Belgium

Next

Return to Other Classic Motorcycles

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests