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TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Matt Spencer » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:07 pm

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Darn Stickey Throttle . :x

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Matt Spencer » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:09 pm

Darn Hooligans . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dAbmOqXT2Y

A well Dressed Speedway rider . :(

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby beng » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:30 pm

Well it is a good thing you put that last photo up, it maybe gave you a chance of having one photo of a t120tt/c to match the title of your latest jibberish thread.....

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Snorton74 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:28 pm

[quote="beng"]Well it is a good thing you put that last photo up, it maybe gave you a chance of having one photo of a t120tt/c to match the title of your latest jibberish thread.....[/

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Matt Spencer » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:24 am

In this case ' R ' is ' Road U.S. Market ' . :!:

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We got the ' R 's in N.Z. , not the pommy ones .


However ' C ' is ' competition U.S. Market ' . not crazy . :P :|

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If you take 45 minutes to ensure the contact breaker is exactly set , you might find the bl :shock: dy thing GOES PROPERLY .

MODEL DESIGNATIONS:
1961 Triumph Bonneville T120/C.................... Scrambler
1961 Triumph Bonneville T120/R.................... Roadster

ENGINE:
Engine type....................................... OHV vertical twin
Horsepower at RPM............................ 46 BHP @ 6,500 rpm
Bore................................................ 71mm / 2.79"
Stroke............................................. 82mm / 3.23"
Displacement.................................... 649cc / 40 cu. in.
Compression Ratio............................. 8.5:1
Valve Clearance (cold):
Inlet................................................ 0.05mm / 0.002"
Exhaust............................................ 0.10mm / 0.004"
Valve Timing:
Inlet Valve Opens.............................. 34 degrees BTDC
Inlet Valve Closes.............................. 55 degrees BTDC
Exhaust Valve Opens.......................... 48 degrees BTDC
Exhaust Valve Closes.......................... 27 degrees B
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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Matt Spencer » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:35 am

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Darn Units .

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64 T120 / C Image

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someone recons 65 was the last year for the ' C ' , were minor variations on C & T , east to west Coast .

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby internetannoyance » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:07 am

Nice bikes, good pictures.

I have a few TT's and T120Cs, including a Preunit duplex framed 1960 T120C, but as far as 65 being the last, thats not true...

I have a 1966 T120C, they made 211 of the T120Cs in the first few months of production for the 66 year, and being that they started the next years production late in the previous year, their lies the frequent confusion.
But after those 211 bikes, they switched to the T1200TT designations for the rest of 1966 and all of 1967 (I have 2 1967 TTs as well awaiting restoration)

In years past,, there has been several 1966 T120Cs sold at Las Vegas mid America auction, they seem to go for about $18,000 USD on average.
thats my hope for mine,, while i have many projects, this one is going to pay for my new shop building. I can build my own shop easily enough,, but with local govt being what it is,,the permit process is hell, Here in Clackistan county (Clackastanis) right next to the peoples republic of Multnomah county.
So,, i can build bikes better than deal with code violations and stop work orders and engineering reports, so im reluctantly hiring the job out.

So, I bought all the bits and pieces to finish my restoration last year, awaiting the time to get it done, however looks like this winter will be the time and place to get it done. Ive owned the bike for 15 years, just know getting around to restoring it.

One of my keepers is a 1965 T120C that im restoring in East Coast US street tracker form, there was a difference between east coast and west coast models and some sold east coast had waist high pipes on either side and retained the lighting,. David Gaylin does and excellent job discussing these extremely rare compy model variants, See his Triumph restoration guide, the best out there, The new edition is now availible, I highly recomend it,. You can buy direct from David right off ebay, and he will autograph it for you,. prompt shipping too, Tell him the internet annoyance sent you., Good guy and one of the most knowledgable out there on Triumphs. He has been invaluable as a resource to me. Jim Hiddleston as well is one of the foremost experts at these, but these days he tends to focus in more on the preunit triumphs.


thanks for posting this cool stuff

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby willh » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:30 pm

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Matt Spencer » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:54 pm

First of the unit 40 inchers .

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might dissapear , filched of Ebay . Copy if you want permanant copy now .

MORE . http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Bon ... 27ce5b7f4e
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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Matt Spencer » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:03 pm

65 TT

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theys the Race tyres . :D

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they think of everything ; Dual Cable Twistgrip . the rest --->

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby internetannoyance » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:49 am


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Nah, its a 1967, and nice bike, but a shame its not as correct as it should, Its one thing if you build one to personal taste, its quite another to try and peddle something as restored when its clearly incorrect.
A) Missing the correct folding footpegs (they fetch a small fortune for a pair these days, saw some recently sell for $400 o feebay)
B) WRONG WRONG tank and side cover decals, factory T120C and T120TT NEVER came with those stickers, although widely availible, the factory never used them, should be the small "Bonneville 120" cursive script
C) has the early style rear wheel, not correct for a 67
D) LOOKS like might be wrong speedo and brake & clutch levers but cant be certain in the pictures
E) missing correct oil tank transfers
F) Many TTs if not all, left the factory WITH the large twin Air cleaner assy, this has shorty velocity stacks
G)It has what appears to be the later style tach drive, and a repop tach drive cable missing the metal shielding, however id have to verify, but I dont think it should be a tach fitted, and the grey face instrument doenst look right, would have to check parts books on all the numbers.
H) Sellers claims never raced,, so why is there number plates on it? all image?
I) Serial number indicates early in 67 production run and thus should be the Aubergrine Purple and Gold paint scheme, although admittedly, i think this later 67 color scheme is far more attractive. If this were a keeper id keep the paint, but to be correct for resale should be the correct color and layout.

Seller COULD have built something useful,,, as some east coast models were reconfigured with a small C model headlight and tail light and sold as street legal,

the problem with such a machine is its not legal to ride on the road, and why have just a display bike unless you can ride it?

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby Time Warp » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:34 am

internetannoyance wrote:... and why have just a display bike unless you can ride it?


A good reason to have two of something.
There seems to have been a lot of TT's for sale over the last six months or so on eBay.

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

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Re: TRIUMPH T 120 TT / T 120 C .

Postby internetannoyance » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:50 pm

Thats a cool autographed picture of Evel,, I dont know where you come up with this stuff but it sure is cool Mr Spencer.

If you ever get over here (soon I hope) Id be pleased to introduce you to the world famous "Sandy Bandit" Cliff Mahjor, Uncle Cliff is an amazing guy, Close friends with Bud Ekins And used to share a house with him and his wife, Apparently they werent big on cooking so Cliff prepared all the meals while living there. At some point in the 50s, Cliff went to work for the Joey Chitwood motorcycle show. Someone quit or was sick, Cliff made some claims about being able to do the stunts better,.and they put him to the test. One was riding wheelies around the entire race track. He did, I have a picture here of Cliff wheelying a matchless G80. You can see the front wheel is loose and the fork caps not tightened down.
Cliff would tell you,, "Who cares?, it aint gonna touch the ground anyway." Anyrate, Cliff taught Evel many of his stunts and tricks. Showed him how to ride thru walls of fire. there IS pictures of all this too. But you should come visit and meet the legend in person. Ol' Cliffy aint getttin' any younger and wont be around forever. His storys are amazing, some of them actually true.

This fall I attended our local NW Old timers banquet where we get together and swap lies and bench race. I had the pleasure of sitting next to Uncle Cliff (served him carrot cake I did) and next to us was Eldon Wright, who was the western US Triumph sales/dealers rep. Eldon won a trophy from the Old timers assoc for his life time contribution to the NW motorycle scene. I have pictures i need to post of this, Although I knew of him for years, I Didnt know him well and wish I had sat down with him years back when his memory was better. I would love to have tape recorded his storys and memorys, the storys He could tell. These days Eldon is still getting around but very aged.

Ive known Cliffy well for decades and have kept a journal of many of his storys. Some of them true. One of the best is the day at the annual Triumph dealers meeting in Long Beach (Queen Mary?) where during the annual meeting Cliff stood up with a beer in his hand, and cussed out senior Triumph mgmt, told them they were idiots and "Didn't know what the F**K they were doing" and "If they would just run things like Suzuki, all us Triumph dealers would die fat dumb and happy". Edward Turner was there and not amused. Everyone was surprised ET didnt blow his primary gasket, Everyone was even more surprised that Cliff retained his dealership. This is one of Cliffys storys that I verified. Ask Bob Raber of San Jose's "Rabers parts mart" as Bob was there, heard the whole thing and was prepared to duck under his table.

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