TRITON, at last...

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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby Carbonfibre » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:24 am

Might be worth picturing removal of the sludge trap tube, as many people overlook this, and end up with ruined motors?
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby swooshdave » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:44 am

Carbonfibre wrote:Might be worth picturing removal of the sludge trap tube, as many people overlook this, and end up with ruined motors?


Did you not see the pics where he welded up the nut to get it out?
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby L.A.B. » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:41 am

swooshdave wrote:
Carbonfibre wrote:Might be worth picturing removal of the sludge trap tube, as many people overlook this, and end up with ruined motors?


Did you not see the pics where he welded up the nut to get it out?


He was using the welded nut to remove the gallery plug-not the tube.
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby Carbonfibre » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:27 pm

The tubes generally need to be removed with a tap, and anyone who can remove one without destroying it must have another method of getting them out. Used to have lots of people coming to the bike shop where I worked many years ago, needing motor rebuilds after they had had cranks ground, and not bothered to change the sludge trap tube. Seems strange GP hasnt pictured how to remove the tube, as failing to do so is a very common (and expensive!) mistake.
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby grandpaul » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:02 pm

In this case, i moved to quickly and didn't get a shot.

On my dedicated classc Triumph twins & triples forum (http;//forums.delphiforums.com/grandpaul), and in the Classics, Vintage & Veteran section I moderate on www.TriumphRat.Net (in the member's projects subsection), you'll find at least a dozen of my previous Triumph big twin projects that all got snapped in time. I'm kind of breezing through the "easy" stuff on this build because (1) It's not Norton, and (2) it's mine, not client's, so no due dilligence evidence needed.
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby swooshdave » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:20 pm

Carbonfibre wrote:The tubes generally need to be removed with a tap, and anyone who can remove one without destroying it must have another method of getting them out. Used to have lots of people coming to the bike shop where I worked many years ago, needing motor rebuilds after they had had cranks ground, and not bothered to change the sludge trap tube. Seems strange GP hasnt pictured how to remove the tube, as failing to do so is a very common (and expensive!) mistake.


Of course it would be nice to see one of your bikes. Any will do. :mrgreen:
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby grandpaul » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:29 pm

swooshdave wrote:Of course it would be nice to see one of your bikes. Any will do.


Easy, there, big fella; some people are more shy than others...
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby Carbonfibre » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:53 am

I gave up messing around with old Brit bikes many years ago.............but did own and work on them for around 10 years way back when in the days when I was a bike mechanic. But whether or not I still own a Brit now, makes no difference to the fact that a crank rebuilt without removing and replacing the sludge tube, will mean a blown up motor soon after it has been put back together.
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby grandpaul » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:27 am

Carbonfibre wrote:...the fact that a crank rebuilt without removing and replacing the sludge tube, will mean a blown up motor soon after it has been put back together.


Yep, just like one that has had a brand new sludge tube inserted too shallow by 1/4" . Don't ask how I found that out.
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby Carbonfibre » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:18 am

Maybe a good idea to post pics of how to go about changing the sludge tube, as lots of people fail to do this, and can lead to big problems?
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Re: TRITON, at last...

Postby grandpaul » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:48 am

Here are a few of my recent project threads that include sludge trap removal & replacement-

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1520.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1495.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1384.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/custombi ... ?msg=170.1

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1149.1 (the "don't ask" bike)

http://forums.delphiforums.com/grandpau ... msg=1044.1 (old photo hosting source, so screwy pix)

If you don't get the idea after reviewing these, you need to hire somebody that gets it. You'll also start to realize that no two are alike in how they come out (or refuse to come out). There are several ways to do the job, with or without special tools.
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