Carbonfibre wrote:...notwithstanding the views of "experts" posting here...Like it or not BS posted here about the magical qualities of old Brit bikes is meaningless in the real world, and anyone racing a classic machine is going to need to do a fair amount of work to keep it running 100%.

OOPS!

I'd really like for you to specify which "expert" you are referring to, and who proclaimed that person an "expert".

It isn't BS if it happened.

"The Real World" is a matter of record, and my record is in the AHRMA archives for anyone to see.

I never said I won, and clearly stated I'm not as good a rider as my humble machine can handle. What I said was that I raced the bike under far more stressful conditions than a typical road bike sees, with hard launches, red line in all gears all the time, clutchless shifting, power downshifts, and sustained full throttle on the high banks of Daytrona and on the salt flats.

I can state with 100% confidence that I could hand my Bonneville off to any of several people I've raced with who are much better riders than me, and they'd be able to duplicate or better thier lap times on any given track on my bike RIGHT NOW, with zero preparation other than a fresh set of spark plugs and an oil change. I can further state with the same level of confidence that it wouldn't explode. The reason is that it is simply a properly prepared engine, according to the factory shop manual; therefore, it is not over-stressed, even at it's maximum capability.

The point of your previous idiocy was that a classic Triumph would blow up under pressure; my reply is that your assertion is absurd.

How you dance around plain facts is an amazing sight to read. You sound so authoritative, yet in clear language, you condemn every statement you make even further.

Carbonfibre wrote:I guess you have never been involved with serious competition Matt? Not sure any racer with any hope of actually winning a race is likely not to have touched their classic race bike motor for 3 years or more? Like it or not BS posted here about the magical qualities of old Brit bikes is meaningless in the real world, and anyone racing a classic machine is going to need to do a fair amount of work to keep it running 100%.

I built my bike not only to the SPIRIT of the AHRMA rulebook, for the Novice Historic Production Heavyweight class, but also to the LETTER of the rulebook. It is, in every way, a completely STOCK original specification Triumph Bonneville. The only exception is the (allowed) electronic ignition. As such, it requires no more maintenance than as stated in the workshop manual, although I understand it will grow tired at a more rapid pace (on a relative mile-for-mile basis). Again, the FACT is, that my bike has not required anything beyond the basic servicing. I must admit that I forgot replacing the chain after the first race at Daytona; I had built the bike with a used chain that overheated and started binding. A local shop sold me a new chain, that is still on the bike doing well.

"Serious" competition is any competition where two or more bikes line up on a bone fide race track for a green flag, and race to a checkered flag. You, it would seem, have never been so involved. I indeed have. IF YOU HAD BEEN, you would know that the very real risk of injury and even death exists as much on a vintage 125cc bike at half speed as it does on a modern superbike at full speed.

Any reply that you can not quantify by verifiable personal experience is equal to that of a 13 year old girl with pimples and braces, googling the internet for a come-back.

Serious competition is where those competing take things seriously. If you are simply taking part for fun, and are not looking to gain any sort of edge over the other riders, there is no need for a very carefully built motor, and alterations to improve handling and braking.

Don't feed the troll.
His only purpose being here seems to be to stop folks enjoying their bikes.
Which he clearly doesn't ?

"Any reply that you can not quantify by verifiable personal experience is equal to that of a 13 year old girl with pimples and braces, googling the internet for a come-back"

Rohan wrote:Don't feed the troll.
His only purpose being here seems to be to stop folks enjoying their bikes.
Which he clearly doesn't ?

How posting ridiculous BS about how much better Brit bikes are than the Jap machines which resulted in the demise of the Brit MC industry, is reflective of enjoying a bike I cant quite understand?

This list is for folks who enjoy their motorcycles.
You obviously don't. Go someplace else and troll.

Perhaps it should also be pointed out that at least 99% * of the worlds manufacturers of motorcycles are now extinct. But that doesn't stop owners of such survivors from enjoying them, in whatever form and however they choose to.
Maybe some folks here could benefit from adopting this approach to life...

* total guess. Probably an understimate.

[/quote] In general UK made Triumphs twins were far more rugged and easier to work on than the Norton, as they had made some sort of effort to update the basic design from 1937. [/quote]

That one line tells me everthing - You know nothing about Norton Commandos and I suggest you bugger off back to the shrine of Great God of Nippon Manufacture and stick your head back up yer bum.

grandpaul wrote:"Any reply that you can not quantify by verifiable personal experience is equal to that of a 13 year old girl with pimples and braces, googling the internet for a come-back"

Well ' speaking off 14 year old girls , doubt the pimples . Farmer Browns Cousin / niece down country was absolved
of K.O.ing a hondagirl heckler r & harrasser who'd given her no peace over the brit / jap issue some years ago .

The Principal had thought the reaction justified to a two week verbal assult by a immature blabbering hysterical dimwit ,
who had been politely asked to desist for a week , and told to clear off three times that morning .

Carbonfibre wrote:I have nothing to say that anyone in their right mind would listen to.

please crawl back under your rock. You are an ignorant and objectionable arse with no concept of what this forum is about.

It would not trouble me in the least if you went away and did not return, ever.

grandpaul wrote:"Any reply that you can not quantify by verifiable personal experience is equal to that of a 13 year old girl with pimples and braces, googling the internet for a come-back"

Sounds like Beng

Jean

Jeandr wrote:Sounds like Beng

Not quite in the same league.

grandpaul wrote:

Jeandr wrote:Sounds like Beng

Not quite in the same league.

Sorted out the problems with your poor standards of workmanship yet Paul?

Carbonfibre wrote:Sorted out the problems with your poor standards of workmanship yet Paul?

more world classs ignorance from the resident Troll, yet again regurgitating what it has read on the internet. Living proof some people should have their computers taken away.