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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby contours » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:19 pm

TonyA wrote:Hello RFK848 , I think Contours runs the long open Motads .


I do, indeed. Love the look.
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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Foster961 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:56 pm

I haven't contacted southbay in a while over the exhaust situation but I never had any intentions of buying their exhaust. Knowing there was no proper way to tune the bike should it need to be lean/rich after installation plus the price in my opinion was insane when I could build it myself. Well, when I was piecing everything together with a new set of cones I contacted Cone engineering and was curios to know if they had any interest in building exhaust on a low production run. I said people will pay and told them of Southbay offering complete exhaust but they were to much in my opinion and maybe they could produce something as good for cheaper .I told them Southbay and an unreliable Norton factory was the only option. Guess who WAS making the exhaust for Southbay !?, Cone Engineering. Now being in a labor/material trade and being involved in a world of craftsman I quickly realized why the cost. He explained there is no real way to duplicate a set of pipes and continuously have good quality control on these bikes. I believe there was an issue with fitment and the only way to resolve it was to have the bike there that the exhaust was going on. He said mounting brackets could be as much as half an inch off from bike to bike,and quality control on the bikes was pretty bad in general(go figure). I believe it was just to much of a mess and there was no money to be made. So with the blending and polishing on top off the man hours to make it like every set was the only set plus cost mark up, you get the high price points. All this does leave room to question factory kits fitting on bikes without fitment issues(I've never read about any complaints) but I don't know maybe there's more to it. Either way I guess that's why Southbay may not offer the exhaust anymore.

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby contours » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:31 pm

Foster961 wrote: He said mounting brackets could be as much as half an inch off from bike to bike,and quality control on the bikes was pretty bad in general(go figure). I believe it was just to much of a mess and there was no money to be made. So with the blending and polishing on top off the man hours to make it like every set was the only set plus cost mark up, you get the high price points. All this does leave room to question factory kits fitting on bikes without fitment issues(I've never read about any complaints) but I don't know maybe there's more to it.


That's interesting. My only complaint with the Motad pipes is the placement over the oil drain plug - they are not centered. But that may have to do with clearing the rear sprocket or something. Other than that mine seem fine.
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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Foster961 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Seems starange to me too about the fitment when most connection points could be slotted. He did say low production was a factor but seemed to put more stock in the fabrication issues. Oh well...

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby TonyA » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:57 pm

Hi Foster961 , If you are actually looking for an exhaust then the Norton Motad or Italian Zard is available. Both are expensive , but so is everything . The Zard may have better cornering clearance and chain clearance. I do not know anybody who has a Zard. Look it up on internet. The Zard required the replacement of the muffler mounting frame on the right side. This part comes with the exhaust when you buy it. If you are in to 2 into 1 systems this may be the one for you. Also John (G81CanCycle) was/is working on his own version of a 2 into 1. You may have seen it on the Access Norton forum last year. I am working on hard bags for the 961. I have a set of Viking Hard Bags that I want to mount. I will post when I finish. I like the system I have , Norton Motad short/loud w/decat X-pipe . The fit is good and so is the sound ! What has been an issue for others is touching down when leaned way over in a turn. If you are not experiencing this now then you are not leaning over far enough . This is OK.

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby TonyA » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:58 pm

Hi Foster961 , If you are actually looking for an exhaust then the Norton Motad or Italian Zard is available. Both are expensive , but so is everything . The Zard may have better cornering clearance and chain clearance. I do not know anybody who has a Zard. Look it up on internet. The Zard required the replacement of the muffler mounting frame on the right side. This part comes with the exhaust when you buy it. If you are in to 2 into 1 systems this may be the one for you. Also John (G81CanCycle) was/is working on his own version of a 2 into 1. You may have seen it on the Access Norton forum last year. I am working on hard bags for the 961. I have a set of Viking Hard Bags that I want to mount. I will post when I finish. I like the system I have , Norton Motad short/loud w/decat X-pipe . The fit is good and so is the sound ! What has been an issue for others is touching down when leaned way over in a turn. If you are not experiencing this now then you are not leaning over far enough . This is OK.

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Britfan60 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:32 am

Rumors are that Matt Capri shuttered his business on other forums. I can't be sure, but I lifted this from the Yelp site.



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The business has moved to 2312 Pacific Coast Highway. It has NOT CLOSED. The shop is around the corner in the back.

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Visit Matt Capri the owner and he will address and answer any of your motorcycle service needs. He's a land speed record holder over 200 MPH at El Mirage and Bonneville Salt Flats

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Britfan60 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:48 am

Aren't the shorties open like the long? I ordered them for my repairs but they are waiting for them at the factory. I'd go with the long open if it speeds things up. I'd like something at least as loud as my South Bay Norton pipes but not the open Mega if its like no pipes at all.
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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby TonyA » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:52 am

I would wait for the shorties . They may be more open than the long reverse cones.

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Britfan60 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:03 am

Thanks Tony. Things are moving at a snails pace. They've had the bike for 2 months and are waiting for the parts. I emailed the factory and was told they are waiting for the tank. I told them to send what you have. My tank only has a little ding in it and I can wait. So I get an email telling me the tank is in " should I send all the parts or wait for the clutch cover and the silencers"?" Really??? Thought we were only waiting for a tank. :? :roll:
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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby contours » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:30 pm

Britfan60 wrote:Things are moving at a snails pace.


Don't I know it. The timezone difference accounts for a tiny bit of the problem.
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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Stephen_Spencer » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:32 am

Hi all,

Just out of interest, do you have access to a custom motorcycle exhaust specialist. I am in Aus and had a brisbane based exhaust specialists modify my long standard pipes. They cut out the cats and welded in stainless straight through pipes. They removed the end cone, extracted all internal components and welded back the cone with a small pipe insert at the mouth of the silencers. Cost me very little, she sounds sweet and looks original. Open pipe map and she is running beautifully.

Food for thought.

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby nopdog » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:45 am

Hi Steve
I'm in NSW and have the sport pipes but would love to have the exhaust note louder. Could please send me some more information or the exhaust shops details.

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby pingu-nz » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:55 am

Steve
Who was your guy ?
I had my exhaust De-catted but not completely opened up.
He De-baffled the top but has left the tube at the bend

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Re: South Bay Norton still selling exhausts for 961?

Postby Stephen_Spencer » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:16 am

G'Day Simon,

No problem mate. The man to speak to is Pete Turner, at Motorcycle Exhaust Professionals, Slack Creek QLD 07 38089377 - www.motorcycleexhaustprofessionals.com.au. Pete is great and he and his boys know everything there is to know about exhaust manufacture/modification.

My 961 Cafe Racer was the first 961 he had done. He worked on it for three hours and was not happy with the result so continued on until he got the exhaust note that he (and I) were satisfied with. Top bloke.

Previously, from new, my bike was difficult to start - at least three attempts needed before it would (sort of) idle. Even then I needed to caress the throttle for 5 mins or so until it would finally idle. Now with the exhaust modified and the open pipe map the bike starts first or second time and idles straight away. It pulls strongly throughout the rev range. My only observation is that is occasionally little hesitant in low gears at low revs. Maybe a little lean - not sure what I can do about it but will keep you informed.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Steve
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