Ron L wrote:Bill dug out an early and late stand from his stash. I suspect the thin one is P/N 23877 while the thicker leg is P/N 034070. Both have the same casting number on the foot pad.
Ron L wrote:I mentioned this thread to my friend, Bill Giar, who has an impressive collection of P11's and parts, including one he purchased new back in '69. He told me he has never seen a completely cast leg on any P11. We discussed the different P/N for the leg on the '68 Atlas and P11A, but could not explain why. He took a close look at the stand on his Ranger 750 and his '67 P11 and realized that the leg on the Ranger is thicker than the '67. I remembered I had purchased a side stand leg for an early ('68-'70) Commando from Les Emery at Norvil several years ago, and when it arrived it was completely cast as well. When you compare this to the correct early Commando leg, it is quite different in appearance, but will function. When compared to the P11 leg, it is pretty close in dimension as well. The picture in P400's post from RGM is dead on the leg supplied to me as early Commando. The spring tab is even rotated about 45 degrees from the original Atlas/P11 item.
I suspect that Norvil and RGM are supplying a reproduction leg that is cast in one piece and using it as a replacement for Atlas, P11, and early Commando (although the Commando has a totally different lug).
Bill dug out an early and late stand from his stash. I suspect the thin one is P/N 23877 while the thicker leg is P/N 034070. Both have the same casting number on the foot pad.
p400 wrote:Here is a part numbered drawing I completed for myself for reference.
I am pretty sure the differences on P11 and P11A side stands have to do with 16174/033278 fulcrum pin. press fit versus circlipped pin.
prop leg stayed same, hole bore changed.......two castings brazed together....expensive and delicate compared to a single casting Ranger prop.
This is just my best guess. please post pictures of your project or pieces.
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