Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

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Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby 73850 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:08 pm

New to the site looking for some help identifying my new purchase (think I overpaid) but always loved Nortons since I was a teenager 40 yrs ago.Bought my 1st Norton recently a '73 Commando 850,needs pretty much everything,has left had shift,dual disc brake + electric start .Paid $2500-ouch.Looks like back yard attempt at customizing.For now need some basic info-engine #303527.What model do I have + does the dual disc brake set-up,with left hand shift ,electric start make this anything out of the ordinary ?

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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby Hortons Norton » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:24 pm

It's a 1975 MKIII not really rare.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby dave M » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:34 pm

How about a photo? If it's fairly complete then I don't think you paid too much over the odds, if you were to buy a Norton double disc set up from Norvil UK you would pay more than 1500 pounds, so this alone could make it worth it, assuming that it's not a Japanese front end that's been grafted on, although even this, if well done, need not be a problem.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby 73850 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:58 pm

Thanks for the info,I'll try and get a photo in the near future-believe me this things rough,think I mislead you guys when I said dual disc brakes...I meant single disc in front + disc in back.... :(
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Postby Cookie » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:23 pm

That might not be too bad depending on condition. personally I think the left hand shift is a plus. Does it have a starter or a place for one?
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby 73850 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:14 am

Yes it does have a electric starter.It's partially disassembled wiring harness/brake lite/side panels are in a box.Brake cylinders are frozen,headlite mntg.tabs at top of fork are bent over,engine seems to have compression,bikes been painted with a spray can,needs 2 fenders/seat/chain.Like I said it's rough won't win any beauty contests.It is a #'s matching bike ... :|
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby Madnorton » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:24 am

Irrespective of how much you paid, riding a well sorted Commando on a nice A road is priceless. Here in the UK, a ''rolling basket case'' could cost £1700 and up depending what needs doing. From friends who have lightweight modern superbikes, they all seem to say that you need to physically ride the Commando, mind you they all seem to enjoy the experience. Used on a regular basis, they are reliable as could be and any questions you have will have no doubt be answered here.
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Postby JimD » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:09 pm

As someone who is looking for exactly that bike I would say that you probably didn't pay too much for it. If that fell in my lap I'd be very happy. Good luck and I hope you get it just where you want it.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby Cookie » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:19 pm

Yup,

I admit if one of those came my way anywhere near reasonably it would be in my garage.
I want that electric starter for my old age.

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Postby swooshdave » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:17 pm

73850 wrote:Thanks for the info,I'll try and get a photo in the near future-believe me this things rough,think I mislead you guys when I said dual disc brakes...I meant single disc in front + disc in back.... :(


I think we've seen rough before. Try us.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby Fullauto » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:06 pm

Somethings not right. That's a MK1 850 engine number. An early one. That would put it at '73 manufacture. If the frame number matches, then you have a conglomeration of bits from a couple of years. Send pictures.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby Don Tovey » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:28 pm

Hi Chaps,
Its too be expected these days to get commandos made up of odd years.
Ive seen people on e.bay trying to sell nice bikes but when you get the engine & frame numbers they sometimes bear no relation to the year they claim to be.
However, if its in nice good running order then all you need to do is ride & enjoy it.
As long as you have paid the going price for a commando & not a highly inflated one then its a reasonable buy.
Ive seen real crap sold on e.bay for £2000 that needs completly rebuilding & thousands spending.
My advice with you basket case is just to try & get it going with as little cost as necceessary for the time being & enjoy riding it.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby 73850 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:12 am

Yes the frame # matches the motor # ..... have my nephew here from Fla.so I don't have time to get photo's up but will try to next week.Thank's for the words of encouragement and info.When I purchased the bike the guy did claim it was a '73.But I'm not sure he really new much about it,think he bought it and started disassembly and realized how much it needed then put it up for sale I saw several BSA's in his garage,and Triumph's he said he was new to Nortons. :?
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby Cookie » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:41 am

Take it from an original owner those of us that rode them in the time when they were new often swapped a lot of stuff. When you bent a frame you could buy a new one or there were used ones going cheap. I lost track of parts swaps on the Commando I rode for every day transport in the 70s and early 80s. My current bike has no two numbers that match anywhere and is CA labeled as a 72 when the frame is actually a 64 Dominator. It doesn't hurt a thing as far as riding goes, only for concours type stuff which I can't do as I'm just not anal enough.
For example my friend Doug bought a new Corvette and detailed it with Q tips, he had his wife haul clean tires in a van and swapped them there. He came back with a long list of things to improve to even place.
I say ride it and the heck with the numbers. You have a great base to build a bike, personally I prefer to buy them dead as I've never been truly happy with an engine I've purchased running with a British bike, there were too many bodges out there when they were cheap.
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Re: Rolling basket case (if there is such a thing)

Postby BillT » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:15 pm

73850 wrote:New to the site looking for some help identifying my new purchase (think I overpaid) but always loved Nortons since I was a teenager 40 yrs ago.Bought my 1st Norton recently a '73 Commando 850,needs pretty much everything,has left had shift,dual disc brake + electric start .Paid $2500-ouch.Looks like back yard attempt at customizing.For now need some basic info-engine #303527.What model do I have + does the dual disc brake set-up,with left hand shift ,electric start make this anything out of the ordinary ?

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Left-hand shift, electric start and front and rear disc make it a Mk III, which would be '75 or newer. The engine number, 303527 would be for Mk I 850 - April or May 1973 - and it would not have any of that stuff, only the front disc brake. Could it be you've transposed the serial number, and it is actually 330527? This would make it a '75, and if it is a Mk III, it would have front and rear disc brakes, left foot shift, electric start as an option, a plastic console between the gauges which houses the warning lights and ignition switch, a different primary case from the earlier bikes with about a dozen screws instead of one bolt holding the outer cover in place, and several other changes from earlier bikes.

Norton probably made somewhere around 50,000 Commandos between 1968 and 1977, with 750s being built through mid '73, and 850s built from early '73 on. The Mk III - the only one available with electric start, came out as a '75 model, starting around serial number 325000.
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