In a case like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNO88yqC ... re=related what kind of brakes could stop you in time? In his case, it was probably something like that except it was a guy in the other lane who missed his turn. If you have ever been at Deal's Gap or one of the many roads in the California mountains where many try to take curves as fast as they dare, sometimes they miss and crash all by their lonesome selves, but sometimes, they cross the path of an oncoming vehicule, if you are unlucky enough, this is what happens and the best brakes in the world won't help

Jean

that 360 brake is cool, but I looked at the spoke wheel...takes like 100 or more spokes...ugly

Jeandr wrote:..many try to take curves as fast as they dare, sometimes they miss and crash all by their lonesome selves, but sometimes, they cross the path of an oncoming vehicule, if you are unlucky enough, this is what happens and the best brakes in the world won't help

like this lucky guy :

http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=17915

pelican wrote:that 360 brake is cool, but I looked at the spoke wheel...takes like 100 or more spokes...ugly

I couldn't find the one you mention, but the drag bike on the left looks like it has one on the back wheel, fairly standard spoke pattern. The only drawback I can see from these brakes is mainly the width required. The Norton front fork has a bit more than 7 inches and this brake takes a bit over 2½" per side plus it has to be in the air stream for cooling. While it is cool, a big drum like a Grimeca does it for me

Jean

Was thinking it'd be cool on a bobber type bike, but this is the pic from one of their recommended dealers

kinda ridiculous

they look awesome on mag wheels though

If they can make a wheel with that many spokes, they can make one with less too, the chopper guys like out of the ordinary stuff, that may be the reason they don't push the more mundane way of lacing a wheel

Jean

Great thread Jean - very interesting - shame about the crash.

Phil

Squids have taken over the role of "stereotypical biker idiots" from the old version of leather-clad bad guys.

They now account for most of what is wrong with the motorcycling population in thew USA (and many other countries).

Most are inexperienced idiots that are in WAY over thier heads, except perhaps in a straight line at posted speed limits (even then, they are typically talking on thier bluetooth cell phones or listening to i-tunes, unaware and totally inconsiderate of the world around them)

thanks Jean for posting pictures of my brake and bike. Indeed it is, was, a Luchier double discs, one of the most progressive (small discs size ) brake and still as powerfull as a good modern set up...It was created in the mid seventies by a small entrepreneur and had a long life on micro cars and glider/ulm. I found this one being a journalist for Moto REvue and testing it on a Morini. Kept it for almost 25 years and finally used it on my Commando. Main problem: it was French and poorly marketed and could not be adapted on Japanese bikes without loosing the speedometer... I just found a single disc model but it will not enough for the Commando...
I wish I could find funny the remark implying that this brake could be the reason of my accident .... being on a crutch for 3 months and not being sure of ever having the use of my right arm (nerve dammages) has put a dent on my sense of humor....
My bike is being rebuild with a friend of mine as (as my wife said "it was not her fault, lets rebuild her!") and I hope ti put a picture as soon as its finished.
Philippe

Sorry for you and the bike... Hope you both heal up 100%

Luchier-Kawa
on this page toward the end there is a picture and some words about a Kawie at the Bol d'or with Luchier brakes:
http://www.appeldephare.com/motos/tecbol.html
Philippe

Bol d' Or 1981 !
I was there .
That brings back memories :
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8it9b ... icard_auto
I went to almost every race from 1971 on , first at Le Mans , then at Paul Ricard .
It was the anual 6 day trip to Le Castellet , 3rd we of september , that made me fall in love with the Alps .
No more Bol d'Or for me , but still riding the mountains .
Phillipe , je suis sûr que bientôt vous roulera de nouveau avec ta belle Norton !