Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Here you can post what you like. It must be Motorcycle related.

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:14 am

If you go to the race, you have to visit around the pits. There MIGHT be one, or maybe 2 people, out of the several hundred racers, that get annoyed with people in thier pits, but typically thier wives will shoo you away.

Everyone else enjoys company in the pits, and love to talk about thier race bikes.

Hobot, you could always camp in my bike trailer in my pit space, I'll be staying at a hotel w/ wyfe & kid.
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby britbike220 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:27 am

Who from here is racing?
User avatar
britbike220
 
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:53 pm
Location: princeton Illinois

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:56 am

If I go, I'll be racing my '69 Bonnie in the Historic Production Heavyweight class.
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby Unclviny » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:18 pm

No racing, vending or anything but bench-racing, tire-kicking and Beer-drinking for me.
The museum just blew me away and the BVF is supposed to be huge fun, since this is my first time there I'll just be "taking it all in".
My new and improved website is (mostly) finished (even I was shocked at how much NOS stuff I have) and "live" on the Intertoobz.

Unclviny
http://www.vinceandersononline.com
1973-1/2 BMW R75/5 (LWB)
1971 Norton Commando
1952 Triumph TRW
1936 BMW R2
Unclviny
 
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:04 pm
Location: Houston, Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:48 pm

Vince, I'm not sure i had seen your site; nice!
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby hobot » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:45 pm

Hey ho Paul. I may have to take ya up on trailer space as Wes's little Chevy PU is too cramped for me to stretch out legs or wrap up to keep freezing air out.
Under the trailer might work too : )
I'm excited, motorcycles and adrenalin highs all around with hardly a risk to me or my bikes!

I've lost some sleep imaging how Peel would take that 180 hook back at mid track in front of the race building. Its like the 10 mph marked switch backs i test Peel on.
With all that run out room and no oncoming traffic I'm guessing 2nd gear at 5000 entry should make it loose as THE G. greased ease. Don't know if she could take on them 125's there.

My respects to you racing, I don't know if I could qualify for the 'license' as I don't for the state issued kind : )
Throw yourself at the ground and miss!
User avatar
hobot
 
Posts: 6509
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:59 pm
Location: Arkansas, Dixieland

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:24 am

Hobot, what you can't see from the building is that there is a very tight "S" coming into that hairpin by the museum. Most guys jump the kerb on the final left section and dive right into the right-hand exit, swinging wide on the throttle (I stay off the kerbs altogether).

The track is simply unbelievable. My favorite part is turn 3 spilling out to the uphill, blind crest, that leads out across the mid-track "slow S" stretch into the hairpin. You have to hope nobody is laying in the middle of the track when you come over the top at full guns. (a similar situation resulted in the recent death at VIR)
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby Unclviny » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:29 am

Well, I could not resist buying a ticket to the benefit Dinner. The guest is Sir John Surtees!, the Dinner tickets are $125.00 each (OUCH!) but for Dinner with a Legend I HAD to go for it.

Unclviny
http://www.vinceandersononline.com
1973-1/2 BMW R75/5 (LWB)
1971 Norton Commando
1952 Triumph TRW
1936 BMW R2
Unclviny
 
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:04 pm
Location: Houston, Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:13 am

Depending on my situation (wife & daughter along or not) I would probably attend the dinner if solo...
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby hobot » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:46 pm

Hobot, what you can't see from the building is that there is a very tight "S" coming into that hairpin by the museum. Most guys jump the kerb on the final left section and dive right into the right-hand exit, swinging wide on the throttle (I stay off the kerbs altogether).

The track is simply unbelievable. My favorite part is turn 3 spilling out to the uphill, blind crest, that leads out across the mid-track "slow S" stretch into the hairpin. You have to hope nobody is laying in the middle of the track when you come over the top at full guns. (a similar situation resulted in the recent death at VIR)


Hehe, giggling to relieve stress putting myself into those tights and blinds. Its as close to real life daily commutes as it can get w/o oncomming. I pucker up before each and every blind often having emergency to dodge. I'll see if I can find video of each corner of Barbers described and a text on them too. The only way to take these kind of radii with any spirit it to enter em loose as a goose. No leaving the firm road surface over shooting edges as waste of traction and length of line though. That run off route seem from museum allows only one bike at a time, musical chairs that can fling one or more on the ground.
To do it on THE Gravel requires down shifting so any fast throttle breaks tire loose right now then ease up to 10-ish % grind to avoid tail going too far out then feather in throttle to keep it that way, in slightly skipping traction, all the way though till upright enough for real hook up power. Its not sliding enough to interfere with cutting the turn short at any point to avoid a hazard or just a bit more throttle allows widening the drift to avoid hazards. Makes lots of dust on THE Grit but just wisps of smoke on pavement. Tire don't look melted nor abraided, just sorta smeared out edges and surface texture imprinted in patch.

I'll be checking on their track days requirements to see what I'm missing out on.
My buddy Wesley once had a race team call "Guppy Racing" so track day crew.
Throw yourself at the ground and miss!
User avatar
hobot
 
Posts: 6509
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:59 pm
Location: Arkansas, Dixieland

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:13 pm

The Super motard guys I think have the most fun, "flat tracking" several corners including the hairpin, at excessive speed.
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby hobot » Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:48 pm

The Super motard guys I think have the most fun, "flat tracking" several corners including the hairpin, at excessive speed.


Hehe, Non Isolastic Tri-Lined Supermotards are under powered fat tired corner cripples that mostly use brake to slide rear around so aren't really even leaving the mere second mode-phase of handling, leaning counter steering. If a bike is sliding wide or off tangent of a turn, its still in phase 2 handling and relieving loads not piling em up to get on out of there. Its fun, I flat track as a lark just to get to pavement and not go so fast I have no reserves for the instant hazards. But can't fool me its only good for saving a real turn or just showing off relaxing. Next phase beyond what you describe requires harsh power to kick rear out while low side resisted by straight steering. A neutral handling bike can take the chassis twist up in the transition of removing the tire conflicts that limits other bikes to phase 2 ho hums. In phase 3 handling pilot has choice to accelerate the increase in radius of a turn or to stay in non-crossed up slide at same lean angle and drift out at tangent till desiring to accelerate into a sharply decreasing radius thrill ending. That means there ain't hardly a turn ya have to slow up for in public but it can get ya into other trouble of no time to change direction no matter how sharp bike can turn, - before already at far edge of road. Then phase 4 suddenly needed to carry on to avoid human limits and reactions - I have only tasted phase 5 on THE Gravel, need 3x more rear power to explore on hard track. Oh My Yes Turns are for Fun!
Throw yourself at the ground and miss!
User avatar
hobot
 
Posts: 6509
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:59 pm
Location: Arkansas, Dixieland

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby britbike220 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:22 pm

counting down the days, I leave next Tuesday, commando is as ready as it can be.
User avatar
britbike220
 
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:53 pm
Location: princeton Illinois

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby grandpaul » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:45 am

I'm hanging in the wind, waiting to get confirmation that part of my trip expenses are being covered by delivering a bikethat's "not quite" ready.

It may or may not happen due to the fact that the client's previously organized ride with trailer has fallen through.

Also pending whether a cash offer on two bikes will transpire before the take-off date.

I hate not knowing...
GrandPaul
proprietor, Born Again Bikes
author "Old Bikes"
Delphi Norton Rider's Collective Forum host
too many bikes to list, including 3 or 4 Norton Commandos
User avatar
grandpaul
 
Posts: 5090
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:11 pm
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

Re: Barbers Vintage Festival 2010

Postby britbike220 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:54 am

I'm just hoping the norton will make it there and back w/o issues. Hope to meet a few members there.
User avatar
britbike220
 
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:53 pm
Location: princeton Illinois

PreviousNext

Return to Anything else Motorcycle Related

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests