Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

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Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby kustomizer » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:48 pm

So I think after I change the oil in my '75 MKIII I'm ready to try and start it, but was wondering if there is anything I should do to the motor to prep it since it's been sitting for about 15 years since it last ran. Any advice would be great.
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby britbike220 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:08 pm

I've never had anything sit for that long, but after a rebuild I make sure the top end is primed with oil and after it is started I watch to make sure oil is returning to the oil tank.
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby Rich_j » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:14 pm

Charging the battery might be worth considering :)
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby Anglophile » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:21 pm

I'd pull the rocker covers and coat the rockers/valve springs with a little oil. Maybe a shot down the sparkplugs holes too.
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby hobot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:22 pm

If just shut down and stored, likely engine ok but for some rust
that's removed by ring and valve action.
More concern is the hydraulic brake systems, condensation
eats and swells pistons in their bores.
Check brake fluid each gas up to detect hidden leaks that
can be fine one hard pull down but nothing on very next application.

Electric connections likely brittle or bad connections to chase down
over 1000 miles or so.
Swing arm will have dry crust rust by now. Top it off if ya can.
Clutch may be gunked and sticking for attention.

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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby Diablouph » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:30 pm

Hobot's dead on. Well, maybe I should rephrase that. Hobot is right. I can guarantee you there is water in the tank, Trans. Forks, Brakes, and you electrical connections are corroded. All from condensation.

Ride close to home, for a while.
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby hobot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:56 pm

Thanks for the lingo grace Herman the German, we risk life/death each ride.

I"m glad you expanded the list, I was pensive to scare off the chance
of another runner by realistic expectations, which is what fooled
me to take on my first complete rebuild, just for some leaks
and refreshing wear parts, boy did I get led on by being told
how simple these ole bikes are. I'm not recovered fully after
over a decade. Best wishes in this instant case.

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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby kustomizer » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:54 pm

Thanks for the input so far. Yeah, I've already rebuilt the front brake caliper and master cylinder and replaced the rubber brake lines. I've replaced a bad ignition switch and replaced the battery, as well as both fuel petcocks. The carbs were rebuild when my friend parked the bike and they haven't had fuel through them yet. The gas tank was removed at that time and cleaned out and coated and hasn't had fuel either. Right now, my biggest concern is possible rust in the pistons and rings and the valve train. So any other info on this would be great or if there is something I'm missing post it up. Thanks again.
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby britbike220 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:12 pm

This isn't relevant to commando's, but when I bought my 65 Duc 250 it had been stored in poor conditions outside and in a barn for 30+ years. I changed the oil and cleaned the points, carb and fired it up and it's been fine that way for years. Amazing how an engine can withstand a beating and the things we fear aren't always reality. If you suspect rust in the cylinder pull the head wouldn't hurt and it will only be a few hours of extra work plus a lot of cussing, but it may make you feel more at ease. I assume you have taken the primary cover off just to have a peak, while in there you can see the clutch and if it's functional. Make sure the tranny has gear oil, shifts through the gears. I'd do the basics and fire it up see what it sounds like and how it runs at idle then ride it around the neighborhood see how it functions
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby JimR » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:34 pm

If the engine was in good condition, 15 years ago, there really isn't any reason why there should be a problem. Mine was off the road and stored in my garage for 25 years, only turned it over every couple of years (oil in the cylinders to be careful). Drained the oil and cleaned the oil tank. Fuel tank was cleaned, coated with Caswell and repainted. Put in new oil and rebuilt the carbs. Started 2nd kick - before putting the Boyer on.
Currently has 1100 miles on it since mid-April with only a failure of the head gasket (copper). Running fine now. Essentially if you're sure it was in good condition when parked start it up and see what happens. These engines are much tougher than many give them credit for. Of course as you described there is a lot more to do than just starting the engine.
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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby hobot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:48 pm

Well kustomizer has been attending to things so yeah oil er up and
bring er back to our life and times.
That basically what I did with Trixie Combat, sat in shop who knows
how long so rather protected by grime. Few kicks and all was
well, then discovered the hard way that someone had installed
a taboo Al head gasket and retained the weak oil slot pistons.
Rub-buba-dub-dub till one piston said enough just motoring along
with traffic.

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Re: Alright, after 15 years I'm getting ready to start it

Postby DogT » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:54 pm

I would drain the sump and the oil tank, flush them with some mineral spirits or oil, and make sure you don't have a bunch of crap in the oil lines, sump or oil tank. Fill it with your appropriate oil and fire it up, check for oil coming into the tank. I'll probably catch some flack on this one as usual.

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