Damn bantam wont go!!

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Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby jimmytwin » Sat May 15, 2010 8:36 am

Well Ive been trying and trying to get this bike fired up and she still wont go..Ive got a good spark,petrol going through and compression. I have taken the exhaust off to hear it firing better (its a straight through exhaust anyway) and it'll pop pop pop then die..!? Every kick it'll fire maybe twice and stop rather than constantly run. Ive tried adjusting the timing,adjusting the mixture screws, spraying a bit of carb cleaner directly into the carb and still nothing. Any ideas chaps because in at a loss. :|
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby grandpaul » Sat May 15, 2010 8:41 am

Sounds like your cam/valve timing is off (easy to do, even though your ignition tiing may check out spot-on). Starter spray with a good spark will work if the timing is right.

One tooth off is all it takes...
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby jimmytwin » Sat May 15, 2010 8:45 am

Its a two stroke engine,i was thinking timing,then fuel,then spark then compression but they're all (in my opinion) good enough to make the bike start...?
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby KEV-C » Sat May 15, 2010 9:05 am

Hi Jimmy.
Petrol/oil mix ok?
Crankshaft seals?

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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby jimmytwin » Sat May 15, 2010 9:13 am

yup petrol oil mix is good, im runnig it on a plastic reserve tank for now. Ive just took the head off and the bore is knackered! :( all pitted etc. So it'll have to have a rebore. Its got a +60 piston in it already so I'll haveto but a +1.0 off ebay.
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby grandpaul » Sat May 15, 2010 9:56 am

Oops! I though it was a baby thumper.

You'd better replace the crank seals while you have the engine apart.
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby jimmytwin » Sat May 15, 2010 10:09 am

It has crank seals? lol, ive had the side casings off and all ive seen is that the crank runs in bearings (Obviousley) and thats it...? The side covers do the sealing, but i expect they'll leak so i'll have to apply some gasket sealer. A cheap green laner is turning into an expensive green laner.

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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby swooshdave » Sat May 15, 2010 10:10 am

grandpaul wrote:Oops! I though it was a baby thumper.

You'd better replace the crank seals while you have the engine apart.


Yup, if a two stroke hasn't been run in a while or your don't know the age of the crank seals... replace them.

If you want to give it one more try before tearing into the seals, absolutely make sure the pilot jet is clear. Two stroke oil in the fuel loves to clog those if they've sat for too long.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby grandpaul » Sat May 15, 2010 12:29 pm

the crankcase has to be sealed somehow, or the 2-stroke process is fouled.
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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby swooshdave » Sat May 15, 2010 12:34 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/BSA-BANTAM-D1-PR ... 0172921088

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MOTOR BEEN IDLE A FEW YEARS?

CONSIDERING AN ENGINE REBUILD ON YOUR
BSA BANTAM PRE '55 D1?


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You are sure to need a full set of quality oil seals!

The kit comprises 2 Off crank seals and the final drive gearbox seal!

One crank seal fits between the 2 right hand main bearings and the other on the outside of the left main bearing.

(You can tell an early engine with its oil feed holes at the bottom of the transfer ducts in the crankcases)



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Re: Damn bantam wont go!!

Postby chris plant » Sat May 15, 2010 4:55 pm

hi jimmy,seeing as you,re taking the barell of for a rebore anyway,you can check the crankcase seals without further dismantleing,by filling the crankcase with petrol the seals should hold the level for quite a while ,if you can visibly see the level going down then the seals are shot,im not 100% sure but if its a late 150 cc d3 then a 175 barell and piston might fit could be worth checking if you cant bore your barell any more
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