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debby



Joined: 15 Apr 2004
Posts: 890
Location: Boulder, CO

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: It's Alive! Reply with quote

Another Norton rescued from the grave! I fired up the Anti Cafe Bike for the first time tonight. It sounds good, no scary noises, and there were no drips or puddles or leaks.

I bought this bike last March off ebay as a parts bike. The seller advertised it as an "expensive project" that he "didn't have time to finish". In reality it was a loosely assembled collection of mostly bad parts. After much time and money, it's now a nice stock 850 Roadster. (That's why I call it the Anti Cafe Project).

Photo of the new bike cooling down after its first run:



Still lots of work to do - sidepanels need to be painted, wiring needs to be finished, and the alternator has a rub. I'm running it total loss right now and don't even have the stator installed. But it fired up and moved under its own power tonight and I'm pretty happy about that! Very Happy

Debby
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Corona850



Joined: 09 May 2008
Posts: 25
Location: Corona, CA

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice looking bike!

That front brake looks interesting. I see a Nissin caliper. What's the rotor from originally? Care to share any specs, such as rotor diameter and thickness, what the caliper came from oroginally and piston sizes, what master cylinder you're using, etc?

I am trying to pick your brains because I want to upgrade my brake but for a lot less than the price of the kits out that are out there.
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Mr Bean



Joined: 11 Apr 2008
Posts: 9
Location: Tasmania

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work Debby. You don't waste any time do you. Mine's been sitting in the shed for about 12 years waiting to be restored. From memory I thought this was going to be a special? It's a real buzz when you first fire them up isn't it. Congratulations.
Ben
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grandpaul



Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Posts: 531
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EXCELLENT!

I also like that front brake setup.

I'm seeing more and more affordable modern front disc conversions on the scene; it's about time!
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Ron L



Joined: 27 Feb 2004
Posts: 1098
Location: Ohio

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations, Debby! Looks great and I bet it runs great too!

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Still lots of work to do

These things have a habit of being a continual work in progress. I put my cafe racer on the stand last winter for new pipes and mufflers and it is still there with new forks with cartridge emulators, new adjustable clip-ons, new Brembo brakes, Production racer tank and seat, different oil tank, new tires, rebuilt starter... You get the idea. Got to make a few more pieces and get the paint done.
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iusedtolikehondas



Joined: 22 Jun 2008
Posts: 36
Location: napa ca

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that fender on backwards?
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L.A.B.
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Joined: 20 Nov 2004
Posts: 1842
Location: Norfolk, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iusedtolikehondas wrote:
is that fender on backwards?


Some owners choose to fit it like that, as the stay wouldn't fit in the normal rear position because of the non-standard caliper being in the way.
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debby



Joined: 15 Apr 2004
Posts: 890
Location: Boulder, CO

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The front fender is actually on the right way, but I removed the rear stay because of the caliper interference. I'm running the same brake on my 750, and on that bike I do have the fender on backwards. It came to me with a Mk3 front fender (no front stay) and I didn't want to drill the fender so I just flipped it around. I got used to it and left it that way. Hardly anyone notices.

The brake uses a Harley rotor and a Nissin 4 piston caliper from a Honda CBR600F4. You can buy these parts cheap on ebay from owners who are upgrading. I paid $35 for a pair of calipers. Brembos usually sell for about $200 per pair, used.

On this bike I'm running a Brembo 13 mm master cylinder from a single disk Ducati Monster. On my 750 I'm running a Nissin 13 mm master cylinder from a Honda CBR600F2. Both work equally well. Good used master cylinders are hard to find - they usually have crash damage - but new Brembos are available.

A friend in the club made the rotor carrier and caliper mount. Overall I'm very pleased with this setup. It works just as good as a full Brembo system for a lot less money.

Debby
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Jason Curtiss



Joined: 14 Jun 2003
Posts: 661
Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on your resurrection Debby!

PS: Is your T5 a good commuter?
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71basketcase



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 79
Location: CapeCod

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

even without the last little bits done, it's a great looking bike:

congratulations!

(now i'm even MORE itchy to kick mine over for the first time!)

karl
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grandpaul



Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Posts: 531
Location: Laredo (south) Texas

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karl, are you going to be changing your forum username?

hee hee
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71basketcase



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 79
Location: CapeCod

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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karl, are you going to be changing your forum username?


ha ha ...... lets see if I can get it to fire up! The guy I got the bike from is a dear friend who in the last few months passed away. His nickname was Strunzo pazzo (crazy sh*t) ...... so I'm thinking of having license plates that say strnzo in his honor.....the only problem is our Italian friends may not like the name so well.


I'll probably stick with what I have , since at 55, I don't think I can navigate around the site well enough to figure out HOW to change my username Confused
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wrench



Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Posts: 153
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to add other than to reiterate: really nice job and great looking bike! And if per chance you have copious amounts of free-tiime and energy, I've got one in the shop that still needs attending to. The will is there but for the next few months, frustratingly, I just don't have the t i m e . I'd provide all the food and libations, naturally!

wrench
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The Unapproachable Norton Commando

At the end of 1967 the Norton Commando was announced.

The Norton Commando was greeted with a certain amount of scepticism because on first sight the commando appeared to comprise of the old Norton Dominator twin cylinder engine mounted at an inclined angle in a set of new cylinder parts.

It was not realized that the new Norton Commando Isolastic method of engine suspension damped out all engine vibration and produced a machine which had uncanny smoothness for a vertical twin. In due course the critics were silenced and the Norton Commando had the distinction of being regarded as the first of todays so called superbikes. There can be little doubt that the original design concept of the Norton Commando has proved correct, since comparatively few modifications of any real consequence have been made since production commenced during 1968.

Now nearly 40 years later Norton Commando riders like us are a breed of our own, and as far as we are concerned its still more fun to go for a blat on the old Norton Commando, and fast. As a Norton Commando owner and enthusiast, my goal here is to promote and give credit to those who keep the Norton name going.

It is more deserving to give credit to the Commando itself, for after all these years it continues to be respected. The original Commando designers like John Favill are those who deserve the credit for developing this incredible motorcycle.

The Norton Commando Roadster and Interstate of the late seventies, never died. Although the Norton Villiers factory dispersed the tradition lived on. Today Kenny Dreer in the USA is developing the new 952 CC Norton. What a great looking bike this is, and its engineering is still based on the original layout. It will be interesting to see how the new 952CC Norton does in todays tough motorcycle market. One thing is for sure, I would own one if I could afford it.