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daveh
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 37 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: Commando rear shocks |
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A firm on eBay.co.uk is selling 'Girling equivalent' rear shocks for approx. £50, plus postage. They claim that they are the same shocks that the shops sell for £70. Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170224157674&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123
They seem the correct length (12.9") and look the part, but has anyone tried them? Forum members' experience and advice would be appreciated. |
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L.A.B. Moderator
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1864 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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They *could* be "NJB" shocks?: http://www.njbshocks.co.uk/
If so, then from what I've heard elsewhere, they would be good value for the original price of £70, as a set of Hagons are about £100+ so for £50 that seems a bargain, IF they are NJBs? |
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Ron L
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Or possibly EMGO's? |
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daveh
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 37 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: Commando rear shocks |
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| Thanks for that, L.A.B and Ron L. They don't have NJB labels (which of course doesn't mean they aren't) and they could be EMGOs. £50 is not much, so I think I will take the chance. |
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L.A.B. Moderator
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1864 Location: Norfolk, UK
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kommando
Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 314 Location: Scotland
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| Don't look like NJB's , I have NJB's on a Victor and they look meatier. |
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Gino Rondelli
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Perth Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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If you use your Commando rather than polish it then spend the money & get yourself decent shocks, having finally got fed up with hagon's & un named cheapo's which need to be replaced regularly I've ordered 2 set's of IKON's (Koni's) for the 2 Interstates. I'll keep you guy's posted on the results. I've a set of old Koni dial a rides on my JPN & they are brilliant compared to the girling/ hagon/ unnamed shocks.  |
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daveh
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 37 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: Commando rear shocks |
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| Yes, Gino, that's sound advice, thanks. |
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JimC
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Port St. John, FL
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Gino,
Where and how much? |
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Coco
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 589 Location: Regina Sask. Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I'd be interested in the ikon as well. We should make some sort of list of shocks that fit the Commando. I have looked into Progressive Suspension rear shocks or even Works Performance but heard either don't fit worth a damn and are more trouble to fit than they are worth. So I was told anyway.
There is another higher end Brit made shock (British company anyway)but I can't recall the manufacturer. Maxton perhaps??? |
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79x100
Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 694
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I've always had (non Dial-a-ride) Konis on both my Commandos - Very pleased with them. I believe at the time that Koni said there were clearance problems with the Dial-a-rides on Commandos but I've seen them fitted as Gino says.
The more traditional type also have adjustable damping but you have to remove the springs and push the damper rod down before turning it to adjust. It's not therefore a roadside option. I have played around with the settings but always came back more or less to standard.
I've never got on with Hagons (which are supposed to be a copy of Gas Girlings) but the OE Oil-filled Girlings always felt more compliant to me anyway. |
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Coco
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 589 Location: Regina Sask. Canada
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| 79x100 wrote: |
I've never got on with Hagons (which are supposed to be a copy of Gas Girlings) but the OE Oil-filled Girlings always felt more compliant to me anyway. |
Koni would be nice if I could find a pair.
I did buy some Hagon's and have not fitted them yet and for the price they seem ok. I've gone pretty much all out on my MKIII and the only thing that seems sub par to me is the Hagon's but I'll make a final decision once I try them.
I was looking for something more exotic like Koni but also checked into Progressive and Works brand, which is where I came up with all the fitment problem stories about those two brands not really being a simple drop-in replacement. |
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79x100
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think that there can be many NOS Konis for Commandos left but the Australian-built Ikons are Konis under licence.
Looking at their application lists, it seems they still don't recommend the 7610 for Commandos.
The Type 76 more or less like the centre image are what I have on mine.
http://www.ikonsuspension.com/content/product_ranges/76_series_shocks.shtml |
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BrianK
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| I have Ikons on my 73 850. They work well. Be a bit nicer if they had adjustable rebound damping, but they don't. Ah well. |
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Per G
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 66 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Talking about Hagon's, I got a pair from Norvil and fitted them. Works OK and I have used them for a while.
Recently I was about to adjust them, I got the tool with them but looking at the shocks I don't see how you know how they are adjusted???
On my old (and totally worn out) Koni's there are "steps" so you will see how they are adjusted but for the Hagons?? Anyone that can explain?
Regards,
Per |
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