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4onthefloor
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: swiss norton |
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Hello everybody
I'm a new norton commando owner ( the commando is in a box, some prev. owner have stripped the hole bike down ) and i wan't to restore and assemble the bike. I'm working as a car mechanic in a garage and own some old car's which i have also restored and reworked. So i hope the commando doesn't make my sick
Best regards
Marco
Sorry about my bad english  |
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cash
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 422 Location: west cumbria
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Marco,
Welcome to the Norton World. Your English is better than mine.
I'm sure you'll find the Commando easy to work on, but it does have a few unique parts that the forum will help you through.
It might have been better if you had posted your letter in the Commando section.
Best of luck,
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L.A.B. Moderator
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1850 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| cash wrote: | | It might have been better if you had posted your letter in the Commando section. |
Yes, I agree, = Message moved. |
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4onthefloor
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the missmatch I'll do it better next time.
Greetings
Marco |
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79x100
Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 689
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Marco
There are plenty of Commando Owners scattered across Europe and of course you now have the owner of Andover Norton not too far away.
Next year's Norton Owners Club International Rally is planned for Austria. - see you there !  |
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L.A.B. Moderator
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1850 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| 4onthefloor wrote: | | Sorry for the missmatch |
No problem at all, Marco, and Welcome!
Have you been able to identify which year or model (750? 850?) Commando it is yet?: http://www.nortonownersclub.org/models/commando/commando_detail.html
I would certainly recommend that you get a copy of the factory workshop manual and parts book once you know which year it is, and we can help with the year identification if you can give the first few digits of the frame plate and/or engine numbers (which would have matched originally)?
If it is a 1971 or later model, then parts diagrams can be found on the ANIL (Andover Norton International Limited) website: http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton%20Website/norton/parts-list.php |
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4onthefloor
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well my Pretty locks currently not so good, but i'll start the projekt this summer ( i'm out of time, in case of others project that i will finish this spring )
Unfortunately it isn't a matching numbers biker ( luckywise, so i can build my own one with my favorite color and intertstate look )
The numbers are VIN 850F100374 engine number is MK1a 306680 building date is 10/73, exactly one year after my birth !
I'm selling a few parts in ebay, maybe anybody will build a custom norton
like production racer or so.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Norton-Commando-Tank_W0QQitemZ230219976604QQihZ013QQcategoryZ44352QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I have also a fiberglass gas tank in stock.
Greetings Marco |
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L.A.B. Moderator
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1850 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| 4onthefloor wrote: | Unfortunately it isn't a matching numbers biker ( luckywise, so i can build my own one with my favorite color and intertstate look)
The numbers are VIN 850F100374 engine number is MK1a 306680 building date is 10/73, exactly one year after my birth ! |
Marco, does the number on the headstock plate match the engine number? If so then the frame and engine could match? As the frame 'F' number would not be expected to match the engine number. |
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4onthefloor
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hm i have to check this number, unfortunately i see my bike next thursday, then i will report again !
Marco |
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L.A.B. Moderator
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1850 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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OK, thanks,
There is always a chance they are matching, but I would not like to give you a false hope of that, as the first engine number to have the F1***** numbered frame is supposed to be eng. 307311.
The photo would appear to show your frame to be the 850 Mk2 version. |
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mgrant
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 58 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Marco,
Is that a mid-60s Mopar in the photo behind your bike frame? If so, that's got to be a very unique vehicle in Switzerland.
Good luck on your Commando. I bought mine nearly 20 years ago as a rolling basket case. After a lot of periodic spurts of activity followed by long periods of no activity the restoration is complete and I'm almost done with the final sorting of the bike. The last thing is this hot idle problem that you've seen in a post of mine. Now, after all this time and money I'm finally starting to enjoy the bike.
Good luck on your bike. You'll have a lot of fun with it when you've got it back on the road.
Mike |
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4onthefloor
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: |
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@L.A.B
i'll take some closer pictures and check the gearbox vin too!
@Mike
Thanks for motivation I start the resto during the summer, because my other projekt (yes your right, it's a 66'Plymouth Satellite 4speed ) makes me busy.
Watch this site, u will see a lot of beautifull mopars in switzerland:
http://www.moparnats.ch/seiten/gallerien.html
Marco |
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4onthefloor
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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@L.A.B:
Well, i have taken the new pictures from the frame neck, engine and gear case:
Gear box + engine have the same number, but the frame won't match to the numbers, i think. I have also taken a photo from the engine support, there is also a number stamped.
Greetings Marco |
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grandpaul
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 535 Location: Laredo (south) Texas
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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That frame stamping on the tank/coil mount flange is not original.
The engine stamping next to the cam protrusion is also not original.
You have an EXTREME re-stamp on your hands. |
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Ron L
Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 1101 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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The O64140 stamping on the tank mount is the part number for the 850 frame. This is not usually found, so I suspect that a new frame has been supplied at some point. This may have been a Verlicchi made replacement. What is the diameter of the main tube? 60mm?
Typically the frame tag would have the engine/transmission number with the month and date assembled.
As GrandPaul says, the MN1A is also strange. Did you see any evidence that the engine had been opened? Perhaps this is a mark from a previous mechanic who may have done some performance modifications? Camshaft? Lightened flywheel? |
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