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Postby elefantrider » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:35 am

Were there 2 different types/designs of handlebars used depending on the years? How were they different?
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby CanukNortonNut » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:59 pm

Check out the "2015 Norton Rally P11 photos" here in this p11 section. I think there are variations to the original handlebars on the crossbar location and the total width of the bars. 32"-33" ish??? Some aftermarket bars are narrower than stock. I got some information at the Yahoo P11 website.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/nor ... =463990195
Try there as another option.
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby BillT » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:54 pm

P11/P11A bars the cross brace is about an inch down from the top of the bend
Ranger brace is flush with the top.

Check the literature on the P11 thread I did a few years ago. Just search 'the P11 thread' - pics of original brochures and restored bikes

Make sure you read the text under the brochures - the bikes in the pictures aren't always the bike the ad says it is! The bike photographed for the ad was often outdated.
'73 Norton 850 Commando - 3030xx
'69 Norton Ranger 750 - P11/1289xx
'67 Matchless G15CS - G15CS/1235xx
'61 Matchless G80CS - 61/G80CS/41xx
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby Mike B » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:53 am

According to Walridge Motors, two different "pullbacks" were used.

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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby elefantrider » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:11 am

Thanks fellas. I am looking for bars like these with the lower crossbar. I like the gradual shape of the bends and height on this bar. Doesn't look to have too much pullback. The crossbar looks really low, I am not sure if it clears the knob, does not look to be the case on this photo.

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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby BillT » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:05 pm

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The bars on both bikes in this ad would be Part# 031651 (or 03-1651)

The ad says P11A, but it is obviously a P11. Parts manual says N15CS, G15CS, P11 and P11A use this same bar. From what I've seen, the book is accurate in this case
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby Mike B » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:02 pm

elefantrider wrote:Thanks fellas. I am looking for bars like these with the lower crossbar. I like the gradual shape of the bends and height on this bar. Doesn't look to have too much pullback. The crossbar looks really low, I am not sure if it clears the knob, does not look to be the case on this photo.

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Those bars with the lower crossbar are from an SS Commando, also an Interpol. I have them on my bike, and it does not clear the knob. It also puts them in an
uncomfortable position with the steering dampener installed.
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby Ron L » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:30 pm

SS Commando bars do not have as much "pullback" as the early P11 bars.
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby elefantrider » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:53 pm

SS bars would be great if the crossbar was a little higher. I think US Commando bars are the same but without the crossbar.

I think the p11 bars are too short or have too much pullback if you need to stand on pegs. Doesn't feel right.
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby CanukNortonNut » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:24 pm

elefantrider wrote:SS bars would be great if the crossbar was a little higher. I think US Commando bars are the same but without the crossbar.

I think the p11 bars are too short or have too much pullback if you need to stand on pegs. Doesn't feel right.

I thought the pullback was to set the rider further back in the saddle? I started out with a parts bike and the handlebars never came with the boxes of parts with what I got. I purchased a H/bar from Walridge Motors. These came with the crossbar horizontal at the same height as the hand grips (aka Ranger as per BillT's description) but the end to end width across was 30.5". I am not sure if this is to the original width but that is what I have to work with.
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby Ron L » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:11 pm

CanukNortonNut wrote:I thought the pullback was to set the rider further back in the saddle? I started out with a parts bike and the handlebars never came with the boxes of parts with what I got. I purchased a H/bar from Walridge Motors. These came with the crossbar horizontal at the same height as the hand grips (aka Ranger as per BillT's description) but the end to end width across was 30.5". I am not sure if this is to the original width but that is what I have to work with.
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Since the P11 was designed for desert racing, you might be correct. The desert racers tend to ride with their body weight as far back as possible to lighten the front end in the soft terrain.
I understand that the bars Mike Partridge provides are a couple inches narrower than the originals, but are the closest to the originals as any modern production bars.
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Re: P11 Handlebars

Postby elefantrider » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:55 am

Does anyone have a used set of low crossbar '67 model bars they'd want to get rid of? Used bars would better match the rough appearance of my bike. Contact me via PM.
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