Official Oil Line Routing Thread

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Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby swooshdave » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:49 pm

While there have been several topics on oil line routing not one had any pictures! (At least not with a cursory search) I mean aside from the one from the workshop manual.

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This shows which lines go where but not exactly how to get them there.

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Outside line goes to the banjo.

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Here it is from the back.

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The inside line goes to the filter. I just have it sitting here for placement purposes.

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I went up and over the rear iso and down to the filter.

The last line will come up from the filter housing right to the tube on the tank.

What say you? Am I close?
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby chris plant » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:25 pm

swoosh,you,re close, just follow the diagram it shows you where they should be its up to you which route you want to take
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby swooshdave » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:17 pm

chris plant wrote:swoosh,you,re close, just follow the diagram it shows you where they should be its up to you which route you want to take


That how my wife says I navigate. I usually get lost. :mrgreen:
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby 2Wheels » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:36 pm

I think the hose to the filter goes between the engine cradle, not over the rear iso on the outside. At least that is how it is on my bike.

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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby L.A.B. » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:02 pm

2Wheels wrote:I think the hose to the filter goes between the engine cradle, not over the rear iso on the outside. At least that is how it is on my bike.


Yes, the return pipe would normally go through the cradle with the 063367 coiled protection sleeve on it.
http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... &Plate=016

Note that all '72 parts book diagrams shows the oil filter assembly drawn on the WRONG [feed] pipe!
http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... 13&Part=37
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby maylar » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:30 am

I went up and over the rear iso and down to the filter.

The last line will come up from the filter housing right to the tube on the tank.

What say you? Am I close?


Both lines go parallel to each other through the cradle. The metal spiral protectors are necessary if you want the lines to not chaff through.
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby L.A.B. » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:50 am

maylar wrote:Both lines go parallel to each other through the cradle. The metal spiral protectors are necessary if you want the lines to not chaff through.


I certainly would not want to route the feed pipe as well as the return through cradle -as there's no reason to do so? Doing that would also divert the feed pipe away from the easiest natural path between the oil tank banjo and the oil pipe junction block.
Also the parts diagrams show there's no spiral protector on the feed pipe (incorrect '72 diagram excepted) only on the return, which suggests that the feed pipe isn't intended to pass through the cradle.

The drawing: Fig. F8 in section F of the factory manual shows what I would consider to be the correct routing for the feed pipe: http://britmoto.com/manuals/Manuals/750_man.pdf (pdf page 94).
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby grandpaul » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:36 am

Now, cram a second, upper swingarm section, and a bunch of rising rate linkage in the space behind the engine, and try routing those lines again!

(It can be done, but your options are far fewer)
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby swooshdave » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:28 am

L.A.B. wrote:Yes, the return pipe would normally go through the cradle with the 063367 coiled protection sleeve on it.


Through the cradle where? Parts diagrams and factory illustrations don't show what you are talking about. Do you mean through the cradle below the rear iso?

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Is this what you mean? It's a much shorter path but there are "sharp" edges on both the cradle and airbox to contend with.
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby L.A.B. » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:17 am

swooshdave wrote:Through the cradle where?


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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby swooshdave » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:42 am

L.A.B. wrote:Image


Thanks for the pic. Sadly that's not an option for me with extra adjuster.
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby L.A.B. » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:53 am

swooshdave wrote:Thanks for the pic. Sadly that's not an option for me with extra adjuster.


What extra (gearbox?) adjuster?
http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... &Plate=005


I thought any second adjuster fitted on the drive side of the cradle?

(Mine's a MkIII, so it doesn't have an adjuster)
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby swooshdave » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:13 am

L.A.B. wrote:(Mine's a MkIII, so it doesn't have an adjuster)


Exactly.
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Re: Official Oil Line Routing Thread

Postby L.A.B. » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:55 am

swooshdave wrote:
L.A.B. wrote:(Mine's a MkIII, so it doesn't have an adjuster)


Exactly.


But the fact that yours has the adjuster shouldn't mean there's insufficient clearance to route the pipe through the cradle, especially as maylar reckons he can get both of them through there, and I don't believe he owns a MkIII?
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