Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

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Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Surfdog » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:37 pm

Hey guys,
SwooshDave has one. I got one too. Its for the Norvil style rearsets.
My switch doesn't activate the light until the pedal is fully depressed... hard.
Is there anybody out there that has discovered an adjustment for this mystery switch?
Thanks
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Surfdog » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:12 am

OK then,
12 hours, 27 looks, but no replies. I guess this piece isn't used vey much.
Alright then, let me re-phrase the question:
If you have rearsets, what kind of rear brake light switch are you using?
How is it mounted and actuated. Pics if possible.
I will post mine tommorow.

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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Keith1069 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:34 am

SD, I have Mick H rearsets which have an adaptor/brake pedal mount that retains the stock switch. You can just see the switch in this pic mounted at 50 deg angle and operated by tab on the rear of the pedal. Image
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby swooshdave » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:06 am

Surfdog wrote:OK then,
12 hours, 27 looks, but no replies. I guess this piece isn't used vey much.
Alright then, let me re-phrase the question:
If you have rearsets, what kind of rear brake light switch are you using?
How is it mounted and actuated. Pics if possible.
I will post mine tommorow.

J. Dogggg


Someone's had too much kona coffee and isn't running on aloha time. :mrgreen:

If it helps, and it won't I didn't get very many responses either.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby pvisseriii » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am

Keith1069 wrote:SD, I have Mick H rearsets which have an adaptor/brake pedal mount that retains the stock switch. You can just see the switch in this pic mounted at 50 deg angle and operated by tab on the rear of the pedal. Image


Ditto! Stock cable, stock switch. Great functionality.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby batrider » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:21 am

Was the cable from Norvil also? Did you try asking them?

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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby hobot » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:18 am

On Ms Peel with John Tinkle rear sets I was able to mount the
brake cable holder-peg mount so factory brake cable was a straight
shot at the drum shoe lever. This might make the inline switch
more stable adjustable, don't know as I never adapted factory wimpy
rear switch or universal spring tug switch I'd gotten for this.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Surfdog » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:56 am

Yes Russ,
The cable was from Norvil.
They don't take email technical questions.
They are 12 hours time difference from me (hawaii). i.e. noon = midnight.
They provide an international phone number for tech support.
They provide a 1 hour window when the tech is standing by that number.
Something like 4pm in the afternoon for them.
That translates to 4am for me.
Nope I haven't asked them yet.
Ha ha ha.
Cable was expensive.
Old Britts has pictures of them on their webpages.
I shoulda got it from Fred and Ella.
I'll need to take it off, take it apart and try to figure it out.
The good old tried and true way for everything Norton.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Paul » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:02 pm

Surfdog wrote:Hey guys,
SwooshDave has one. I got one too. Its for the Norvil style rearsets.
My switch doesn't activate the light until the pedal is fully depressed... hard.
Is there anybody out there that has discovered an adjustment for this mystery switch?
Thanks
J. Doggg

Hi Surfdog,
I read your post just right now. When I bought my bike, I had the same problem. I managed to solve it but I'm afraid I'll have to check out how I did it... :? I'll be back soon - maybe tomorrow.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby swooshdave » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:34 pm

Paul wrote:
Surfdog wrote:Hey guys,
SwooshDave has one. I got one too. Its for the Norvil style rearsets.
My switch doesn't activate the light until the pedal is fully depressed... hard.
Is there anybody out there that has discovered an adjustment for this mystery switch?
Thanks
J. Doggg

Hi Surfdog,
I read your post just right now. When I bought my bike, I had the same problem. I managed to solve it but I'm afraid I'll have to check out how I did it... :? I'll be back soon - maybe tomorrow.


Here's how Paul did his.

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Shouldn't the brake cable run through the muffler mounts? Looks like a severe angle on the cable.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby DonOR » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:42 pm

hobot wrote:On Ms Peel with John Tinkle rear sets I was able to mount the
brake cable holder-peg mount so factory brake cable was a straight
shot at the drum shoe lever. This might make the inline switch
more stable adjustable, don't know as I never adapted factory wimpy
rear switch or universal spring tug switch I'd gotten for this.
Image

Can blow up photo a bit more from here is ya care.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1383202 ... 1179EnkEUv

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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby hobot » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:06 pm

Nothing in this universe makes sense. Its not supposed to... You get to construct your own concepts if you are lucky... Unlucky if you believe what some one else tells you is the truth.


Well, was best view I could find on the rear brake cable run.
I'm ashamed to admit to some sensitivity on dropping my fine companions.
But my game plan is to use up everything around me and go out feeling fine.

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Next time out will clear that stump no problemo.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Paul » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:16 pm

swooshdave wrote:Shouldn't the brake cable run through the muffler mounts? Looks like a severe angle on the cable.


The cable is too long for this :

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@ Surfdog: the switch is a very simple construction but it works in an "opposite" way. It's activated when the brake pedal is not depressed : a black plunger ensures that the metal ring inside the switch is removed from the two contacts (and so the brake light goes out). So if you have to push the pedal to far down before the brake light goes on, move the switch more backwards and if that's impossible, you can modify the plunger like this :
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Surfdog » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:08 am

Hey Paul,
Thanks for the input.
But I think I have a different setup.
That picture in the last post looked like a stock switch mounted against the back of the pedal/lever.
Mine as the topic suggests is an Inline switch on the brake cable itself.
Its held in position by the cable housing and the cable itself runs through it.
Can't move it, unell your talking about something internal to the switch.
I have yet to yake it off and apart.
But that is my next step.
Heres some pics to show you guys what I'm talking about.
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch

Postby Diablouph » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:28 am

I tried to buy one from Old Britts, and they wouldn't sell it to me. They said that they were too much trouble. Too many returns. I took the hint and fixed the flange that holds the switch on the brake pedal.

Glad to hear Mrs. Peel is O.K. I just figured that Hobot had killed her with all the hell he puts her through, and he was getting ready to give her a Christian burial.
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