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Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by GRM 450 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:36 am
Looks more like the corpse was dumped in the woods
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by swooshdave » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:58 am
I'm not going to fret about mine yet. I think it will get better with use and I don't plan on stopping with the rear brake only. It just needs to work enough to pass inspection.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by Diablouph » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:30 am
Swooshdave.... How can you fret over a silly brake light when Mrs. Peel is lying in a ditch somewhere in the forest. Good god man, have you no feelings?
Herman the German
73 850
They don't call it constant depression for nothin..
73 850
They don't call it constant depression for nothin..
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by hobot » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:45 am
I don't know but I've been told by all who run in line cable switches
hate them and can feel the effect of switch slack in brake feel.
Rear sets mount can be oriented for a straight cable run, either
as is or by some machinist, then go for a more robust press
or pull switch and save some future fettering to get rear working
a while longer till next diddle process.
To remain factory better get some spares at bargains when found,
similar to speedo drives and tires.
hobot
hate them and can feel the effect of switch slack in brake feel.
Rear sets mount can be oriented for a straight cable run, either
as is or by some machinist, then go for a more robust press
or pull switch and save some future fettering to get rear working
a while longer till next diddle process.
To remain factory better get some spares at bargains when found,
similar to speedo drives and tires.
hobot
Throw yourself at the ground and miss!
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by swooshdave » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:24 am
Diablouph wrote:Swooshdave.... How can you fret over a silly brake light when Mrs. Peel is lying in a ditch somewhere in the forest. Good god man, have you no feelings?
Not when it's not the first time she's been in such a compromising position. Slut.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by Diablouph » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:28 am
Before you judge, ride a mile in her tyres.
Herman the German
73 850
They don't call it constant depression for nothin..
73 850
They don't call it constant depression for nothin..
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by hobot » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:43 am
Yoose guys just don't know what ya missing out on riding
a real hot slut for mulitple orgasms on and off road.
All my bikes are expected to go down, just its usually so bad
both it and me are not fully functional so few photo's
of real crash events rather than a fun tip over I got right
back at it faster to blast though and over the tip over
hazards I didn't have enough ballistics for mere half rotted stump.
Here' is a crash diagrammed when I was being extra special
timid and tame going home after very first trip out to get
gas and see how everything was working, creeped though
turn 20's mph holding near center double yellow to not
be near parked on edge cars if they decide d to move,
and began a slight drift back to center of my lane
before I got to the slight crest and any wayward on comming
traffic, when I noticed yellow sparks ahead of me and
cocked head to focus to see it was Trixie!?!?!?!?
then felt pavement grinding into hand bone and reflex
jerked it up to suddenly tumble instead of slide
to a stop from ~30 mph, all the time keeping eye
on Trixie sliding so gracefully to side of hwy.
hobot - last time on a Commando feeling so safe I wore
only sun glasses, took out my friends headlight 2 wks ago.
Hit invisible grit layer in shade I'd been across a number of
time earlier w/o notice while braking but for last time.
a real hot slut for mulitple orgasms on and off road.
All my bikes are expected to go down, just its usually so bad
both it and me are not fully functional so few photo's
of real crash events rather than a fun tip over I got right
back at it faster to blast though and over the tip over
hazards I didn't have enough ballistics for mere half rotted stump.
Here' is a crash diagrammed when I was being extra special
timid and tame going home after very first trip out to get
gas and see how everything was working, creeped though
turn 20's mph holding near center double yellow to not
be near parked on edge cars if they decide d to move,
and began a slight drift back to center of my lane
before I got to the slight crest and any wayward on comming
traffic, when I noticed yellow sparks ahead of me and
cocked head to focus to see it was Trixie!?!?!?!?
then felt pavement grinding into hand bone and reflex
jerked it up to suddenly tumble instead of slide
to a stop from ~30 mph, all the time keeping eye
on Trixie sliding so gracefully to side of hwy.
hobot - last time on a Commando feeling so safe I wore
only sun glasses, took out my friends headlight 2 wks ago.
Hit invisible grit layer in shade I'd been across a number of
time earlier w/o notice while braking but for last time.
Throw yourself at the ground and miss!
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by Surfdog » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:34 pm
The latest episode in the quest for in-line brake switch nirvana is complete.
I finally got time to disassemble the brake switch in question to see how it works.
It seems the contacts/terminals go into the switch and are separated by a small piece of rubber.
The rubber has notches cut into it to allow the contacts to meet a metal plate just below the rubber piece.
So the sandwich is made up of a metal contact plate, a piece of rubber, and a set of 2 contacts mounted in a piece of plastic.
The metal brake cable passes thru a hole in each layer of the sandwich.
The cable housing itself on both sides of the now encapsulated switch when mounted squeezes the assembly together when brake pressure is applied.
Voila! contact is made and the brake light goes on. Now we know how it works.
In my case, the rubber layer, although it is soft and pliable enough outside the switch, the thickness of it commanded a LOT of pressure to compress enough to allow contact.
I took my handy flat metal file to it and just rubbed off a bit on each side of the disk of rubber. Thinning it so to speak.
Upon reassembly and testing proved I was a success. Now only a light amount of pressure is required to make contact and light the light.
This is truly a case of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence.
I am truly happy with the operation of the newly installed rearsets and the inner workings of the Norvil In-Line Brake Light Switch Cable.
I hope this helps others with similar problems or concerns.
J. Doggg
I finally got time to disassemble the brake switch in question to see how it works.
It seems the contacts/terminals go into the switch and are separated by a small piece of rubber.
The rubber has notches cut into it to allow the contacts to meet a metal plate just below the rubber piece.
So the sandwich is made up of a metal contact plate, a piece of rubber, and a set of 2 contacts mounted in a piece of plastic.
The metal brake cable passes thru a hole in each layer of the sandwich.
The cable housing itself on both sides of the now encapsulated switch when mounted squeezes the assembly together when brake pressure is applied.
Voila! contact is made and the brake light goes on. Now we know how it works.
In my case, the rubber layer, although it is soft and pliable enough outside the switch, the thickness of it commanded a LOT of pressure to compress enough to allow contact.
I took my handy flat metal file to it and just rubbed off a bit on each side of the disk of rubber. Thinning it so to speak.
Upon reassembly and testing proved I was a success. Now only a light amount of pressure is required to make contact and light the light.
This is truly a case of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence.
I am truly happy with the operation of the newly installed rearsets and the inner workings of the Norvil In-Line Brake Light Switch Cable.
I hope this helps others with similar problems or concerns.
J. Doggg
The Triumvirate: '72 Norton Commando, '66 BSA Thunderbolt, '08 Triumph T-100
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by swooshdave » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:29 pm
Surfdog wrote:The latest episode in the quest for in-line brake switch nirvana is complete.
I finally got time to disassemble the brake switch in question to see how it works.
It seems the contacts/terminals go into the switch and are separated by a small piece of rubber.
The rubber has notches cut into it to allow the contacts to meet a metal plate just below the rubber piece.
So the sandwich is made up of a metal contact plate, a piece of rubber, and a set of 2 contacts mounted in a piece of plastic.
The metal brake cable passes thru a hole in each layer of the sandwich.
The cable housing itself on both sides of the now encapsulated switch when mounted squeezes the assembly together when brake pressure is applied.
Voila! contact is made and the brake light goes on. Now we know how it works.
In my case, the rubber layer, although it is soft and pliable enough outside the switch, the thickness of it commanded a LOT of pressure to compress enough to allow contact.
I took my handy flat metal file to it and just rubbed off a bit on each side of the disk of rubber. Thinning it so to speak.
Upon reassembly and testing proved I was a success. Now only a light amount of pressure is required to make contact and light the light.
This is truly a case of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence.
I am truly happy with the operation of the newly installed rearsets and the inner workings of the Norvil In-Line Brake Light Switch Cable.
I hope this helps others with similar problems or concerns.
J. Doggg
And pictures of the disassembled switch are where?
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by Surfdog » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:02 am
Yeah, um, since I wasn' sure it was going to work. I didn't take any.
So when I reassembled it and it worked perfect, I said, "Well that was easy, but to be on the safe side I think I'll leave it together".
The switch itself is like a chinese puzzle.
Looks difficult at first and you ask how the heck does this work? and come apart?
Just gently twist the connector/prongs and it will come out of the housing.
The rest is self explanitory.
Hey Swoosh, I hope yours works as good as mine!
j.d
So when I reassembled it and it worked perfect, I said, "Well that was easy, but to be on the safe side I think I'll leave it together".
The switch itself is like a chinese puzzle.
Looks difficult at first and you ask how the heck does this work? and come apart?
Just gently twist the connector/prongs and it will come out of the housing.
The rest is self explanitory.
Hey Swoosh, I hope yours works as good as mine!
j.d
The Triumvirate: '72 Norton Commando, '66 BSA Thunderbolt, '08 Triumph T-100
http://www.napaliprop.com/Triumvirate.html
'65 Falcon Futura http://www.napaliprop.com/surfdogstaged.html
'74 Triumph TR-6 Roadster http://www.napaliprop.com/TR-6-wave.jpg
http://www.napaliprop.com/Triumvirate.html
'65 Falcon Futura http://www.napaliprop.com/surfdogstaged.html
'74 Triumph TR-6 Roadster http://www.napaliprop.com/TR-6-wave.jpg
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by coreyl » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:11 am
So, to disassemble the in-line switch, you don't need to mess with/depress the tabs on the side of the switch; you just grasp and twist the spade connectors on the end and the switch will come apart?
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San Antonio TX
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San Antonio TX
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'69 Norton 750 Commando S
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Re: Norvil Rear Brake Cable w/ Inline Switch
by swooshdave » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:22 am
Surfdog wrote:Hey Swoosh, I hope yours works as good as mine!
j.d
Mine works even with hand pressure. Not sure if I want to mess with it yet.
I can't believe you didn't take pictures! Have I taught you people nothing?!?!!?
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.
Matt
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