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Late 1960's derelict Atlas

 
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frankdamp



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Late 1960's derelict Atlas Reply with quote

In discussions with a fellow employee today he mentioned that his father has an "old Norton", maybe 1965 or so. Hasn't been run or anything for maybe 15 years.

From the decsription, it sounds like an Atlas. Would it be worth anything as a restorable? I don't suppose it would be worth what it would take to restore it by the time I'd finish it, but it might be an interesting project, particularly since I worked at N-V and I'm quite familiar with the Atlas.

Any comments?

I do remember a complaint from a new Atlas owner, when I was in the Experimental Department. He complained that he could only get about 82 mph top speed - much less than published figures, and his gas mileage was down in the low 30's to a UK gallon.

We were so horrified, we invited him to visit the factory to see if we could figure out what the problem was. He showed up with his Atlas hooked to a double-adult sidecar, occupied by his fairly large wife and two children!
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79x100



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank, I think that these projects very rarely make solid financial sense but that doesn't stop tens of thousands of us around the world being obsessed with little else.

At least you'll have the comfort of knowing that you're not the only lunatic in the asylum Smile
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Tulsaalva



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Obsession" is the key word there, 79X100.

Ever since I started my Bonneville Special project, I find myself going out into the garage and just staring at the bike... for what seems to me to be an obsessive amount of time.

I've new bars and grips on order and can't wait until they get here! There's nothing wrong with the ones on it, except that I want something different.

The strange thing is, before I found this website, I hadn't really looked at the bike in years!

Al
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79x100



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to explain to me Al !

A mug of tea, a packet of Hobnobs and a few minutes quiet reflection in the company of a couple of old motorcycles...Heaven ! Rolling Eyes
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frankdamp



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because of our schedules I might not see my buddy for a couple of weeks. I'll be taking one of my Norton books to help him identify this "relic". Will advise when I know more.
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Jason Curtiss



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there 79x100,

So, what size wrench do you need for those Hobnobs?

Seriously, what is a Hobnob?

Jason
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L.A.B.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason Curtiss wrote:
So, what size wrench do you need for those Hobnobs?

Seriously, what is a Hobnob?


It's a popular type type of British biscuit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HobNob
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79x100



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the link Les. I realised as I typed that it was probably a culturally confusing reference but then these differences are part of what make it all so interesting Smile

I quite like this link as well, I even use the same Cornish-ware cups as the author. It's not just my motorcycles that are old-fashioned Rolling Eyes

http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/biscuits/previous.php3?item=12
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L.A.B.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

79x100 wrote:
I realised as I typed that it was probably a culturally confusing


The 'flapjack' references in both links may further add to the confusion, I fear?

http://www.flapjackrecipe.com/
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79x100



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L.A.B. wrote:


http://www.flapjackrecipe.com/


I'm salivating and I've bookmarked that link ! If it wasn't so late, I'd be in the kitchen already. Very Happy
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dave M



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les, You are in danger of overtaking Google as our prefered search engine. Bertie Wooster would undoubtedly have engaged you, if that blighter Jeeves had not gotten in there first!

Dave M
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Jason Curtiss



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the explanation 79x100. I'll try not to get Hobnobs confused with bubble-and-squeak!

Jason
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frankdamp



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It turns out that my friend's Dad's bike is a 1974 Commando. Warren says it's totally derelict and badly corroded but it's part of Dad's "memories" and he won't part with it.

I haven't seen it and don't know which model it is.
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The Unapproachable Norton Commando

At the end of 1967 the Norton Commando was announced.

The Norton Commando was greeted with a certain amount of scepticism because on first sight the commando appeared to comprise of the old Norton Dominator twin cylinder engine mounted at an inclined angle in a set of new cylinder parts.

It was not realized that the new Norton Commando Isolastic method of engine suspension damped out all engine vibration and produced a machine which had uncanny smoothness for a vertical twin. In due course the critics were silenced and the Norton Commando had the distinction of being regarded as the first of todays so called superbikes. There can be little doubt that the original design concept of the Norton Commando has proved correct, since comparatively few modifications of any real consequence have been made since production commenced during 1968.

Now nearly 40 years later Norton Commando riders like us are a breed of our own, and as far as we are concerned its still more fun to go for a blat on the old Norton Commando, and fast. As a Norton Commando owner and enthusiast, my goal here is to promote and give credit to those who keep the Norton name going.

It is more deserving to give credit to the Commando itself, for after all these years it continues to be respected. The original Commando designers like John Favill are those who deserve the credit for developing this incredible motorcycle.

The Norton Commando Roadster and Interstate of the late seventies, never died. Although the Norton Villiers factory dispersed the tradition lived on. Today Kenny Dreer in the USA is developing the new 952 CC Norton. What a great looking bike this is, and its engineering is still based on the original layout. It will be interesting to see how the new 952CC Norton does in todays tough motorcycle market. One thing is for sure, I would own one if I could afford it.