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Norton Trivia

Postby swooshdave » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:30 am

I've seen a lot of trivia question used over the years a club events or other such stuff. Post your favorite ones.

I'll start:

The first production electric start English motorcycle was the __________?

What was the second?
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby prmurat » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:51 am

1/400 ES Norton
I am at loss for the 2nd...easy answer would be in between the T160 and the Commando MKIII...but I am sure there is something else..
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby L.A.B. » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:10 pm

prmurat wrote:1/400 ES Norton
I am at loss for the 2nd...easy answer would be in between the T160 and the Commando MKIII...but I am sure there is something else..
Philippe


None of those would be correct, as the ES400 Electra wasn't the first.
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby grandpaul » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:33 pm

I think the first e-start was back in the 40s, no?
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby grandpaul » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:35 pm

1914 Indian.
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby L.A.B. » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:53 pm

grandpaul wrote:1914 Indian.


I don't think any 1914 Indians were built in England?


However, if we exclude such machines as the Triumph Tigress, BSA Sunbeam, Velocette Viceroy and DKR Defiant because they're scooters and not motorcycles then that would still leave the Villiers powered DMW Deemster, Ambassador Electra 75, and DKW Dolomite which had Siba Dynastart starters (Deemster deLuxe) and all of which predate the 1963 Norton ES400 Electra, the Dolomite by 9 years-however because Villiers sold their engines by the thousand to anyone and everyone-including countless English/British 2-stroke motorcycle manufacturers, I think it would be almost impossible to say which manufacturer built the first (or second) electric start production motorcycle and it might not even have been Villiers powered.


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"The ‘Dolomite’, a development of the ‘Cortina’ was launched in 1954. It had Metal Profiles ‘Earles’ type front forks and an electric starter using the Siba Dynastart system. The top speed was around 72m.p.h. It sold for £240."

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...the 'Deemster', also a cross between a motorcycle and scooter, was launched in 1962. It had a Villiers 249c.c. twin-cylinder two- stroke engine, with electric or kick start, and like the 'Bambi' was built around a number of steel pressings. There were Standard and DeLuxe models, which were fitted with a Villiers 4-speed gearbox. The DeLuxe version included a Siba Dynastart electric starter.


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Electra 75 1961-64, Villiers 2T 249cc (1958-63), 4T 249cc (1964), 2 stroke, 4 speed, 318lbs
Basically a Super S model fitted with a Siba Electric Start mechanism.

I think the Excelsior Talisman Twin also had the Siba Dynastart.
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby Olephart » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:11 pm

What's the rarest model Norton?
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby wombatsrus » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:56 pm

Whats the rarest model Nortons.


It's always the one I'm trying to buy......!

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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby swooshdave » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:58 pm

I want LAB to provide a question that will stump the masses. :mrgreen:
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby Rohan » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:35 pm

Olephart wrote:What's the rarest model Norton?


Easy - the v-twin model that Rem Fowler won the twin cylinder class of the IoM with in 1907.

The one in the National MC Museum in Brum is now a replica of a replica....
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby Rohan » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:36 pm

New trivia question.

Engine code 13 is on what model of twin cylinder Norton ? (postwar)
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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby Olephart » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:26 am

wombatsrus wrote:
Whats the rarest model Nortons.


It's always the one I'm trying to buy......!

How are you Mike?

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I've been struggling with Meniere's disease Tony, I got a sinus infection and caused fluid to accumulate in a little tube in my ear and I wound up in the hospital for a couple days...again. Started feeling better yesterday and have had fun reading the forum posts. And I love trivia!

Thanks for asking! How bout you?

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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby wombatsrus » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:25 pm

Mike:

Sorry to hear that mate. Hope things get better!

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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby Olephart » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:49 pm

swooshdave wrote:I want LAB to provide a question that will stump the masses. :mrgreen:


I'm glad you brought that up. Never mind this dude's depth and width but the amount of instant and accurate information blows the wee bit of brain mass I have remaining. :shock: :shock: The fact that you take time to share it is commendable. 8) I really enjoy the pics of motorcycles that I've never seen before. Good job, my friend.

And Thanks Tony. Have you found a footpeg/peddle assembly? I might could find one, I have a friend that has a stash of parts. He does think alot of his stuff, though. He's a local Honda mechanic that was an apprentice in my shop many moons ago - could hook you guys up if you like.

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Re: Norton Trivia

Postby BillT » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:33 pm

Rohan wrote:New trivia question.

Engine code 13 is on what model of twin cylinder Norton ? (postwar)


Engine code 13 is for the model 50, which was a 348cc single, built in the '30s and from '56 to '63. These were featherbed-framed models in their last 5 years, and a main source of Triton chassis. I think when AMC moved Norton production, they changed the model 50 engine code to '50' rather than 13.
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