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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby BritTwit » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:51 am

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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby richard-7 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:33 am

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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby comet » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:34 am

Interesting to see Stuart Garner on the BBC news last night. The item was about the low unemployment numbers and Stuart was saying how they are struggling to recruit people with the right skills.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby TonyA » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:03 am

I wish someone would give these Zards a try !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Norton-Commando ... 2358260946
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby Britfan60 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:19 am

TonyA wrote:I wish someone would give these Zards a try !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Norton-Commando ... 2358260946


Those are cool looking pipes, but that unfinished look on such an elegantly styled bike....Whatever floats yer boat. Partially why I'm sending these shorties back. Also, it appears to be all one piece. No clamps. Have to take the whole system off for an oil change? Try em, Tony. Take one for the team. :mrgreen:
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby Britfan60 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:30 am

comet wrote:Interesting to see Stuart Garner on the BBC news last night. The item was about the low unemployment numbers and Stuart was saying how they are struggling to recruit people with the right skills.


Best of luck to Callum Doyle at Norton. The person that we order parts from. Today is his last day. I hope someone competent replaces him. Can't wait to see what happens with the balance of my order (clutch cover) and my expected refund for my pipes. Anyway, thanks to Callum for all you've done thus far. You'll be missed.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby Fast Eddie » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:20 am

Britfan60 wrote:
comet wrote:Interesting to see Stuart Garner on the BBC news last night. The item was about the low unemployment numbers and Stuart was saying how they are struggling to recruit people with the right skills.


Best of luck to Callum Doyle at Norton. The person that we order parts from. Today is his last day. I hope someone competent replaces him. Can't wait to see what happens with the balance of my order (clutch cover) and my expected refund for my pipes. Anyway, thanks to Callum for all you've done thus far. You'll be missed.


Staff turnover at Norton is way outside the norm.

Not a good indicator of staff moral amongst other things.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby BritTwit » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:59 am

Britfan60 wrote:
comet wrote:Interesting to see Stuart Garner on the BBC news last night. The item was about the low unemployment numbers and Stuart was saying how they are struggling to recruit people with the right skills.


Best of luck to Callum Doyle at Norton. The person that we order parts from. Today is his last day. I hope someone competent replaces him. Can't wait to see what happens with the balance of my order (clutch cover) and my expected refund for my pipes. Anyway, thanks to Callum for all you've done thus far. You'll be missed.


Kudos, and best of luck to Callum.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby TonyA » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:54 pm

Darn it , I am going to England tomorrow and to Norton Next week . I was going to visit Callum among others when I was there . Is there anything I should say when I am there ? I mean beside what I am already going to say of course ?
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby DODGY DEN » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:11 am

Unfortunately after saving up for a pair of long open exhausts the standard fell well short of what I expected. Thank you Callum for being quick to give me a refund and good luck in your new job. I shall wait for a while to see if the quality gets better. I am looking at buying a pair of standard second hand pipes cutting the ends off and removing the baffles and re-welding the ends on !!! anybody done this ? The bike is with Marc in the workshop for a few minor niggles but nothing to worry about, very pleased with the bike.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby Bernhard » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:51 am

After looking at these pictures, I am reminded of a certain other gentleman who churned out cheapo crap parts for the older Nortons what was his name –OH! Paul Dunstall.

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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby Britfan60 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:19 am

Kind of like wearing tattered sneakers with your tuxedo.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby DODGY DEN » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:48 am

Just heard from Norton and apparently they have a top designer to sort out the problems on the quality control in the fab shop regarding the exhausts.
I will see what they are like next week when I pick the bike up.

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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby Fast Eddie » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:47 pm

DODGY DEN wrote:Just heard from Norton and apparently they have a top designer to sort out the problems on the quality control in the fab shop regarding the exhausts.
I will see what they are like next week when I pick the bike up.


Interesting. Designers aren't normally the people to call on to fix quality control issues. Designers normally fix design issues. Good quality and / or production people are usually the best at sorting QC issues...

Poor welding ain't a design issue. Neither is poor inspection!

I'm sure they'll sort it though, which is all that really matters in the end I guess.
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Re: Norton vs Motad Shorties

Postby gtnorton » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:30 pm

Hey Guys, new owner of a awesome Cafe Racer MKII. When I bought my bike, I had to search far and wide for exhausts as the Norton factory didn't have any in stock and Callum Doyle said they were a month and 1/2 lead time but was very vague about that even (nice guy but just had no solid answers as did anyone else - to get some long opens made (not Motads-the "in house" made Norton new ones) and had no real time frame or idea on when they could make me a decat midpipe. My bike was brand new acquired in June and I couldn't wait all summer on the factory's vagueness/lead time and NO ONE in the UK (Krazy Horse - Phil - super good guy, all dealers), Canada or the USA had any Motad or Norton pipes made of anything in stock. So, I kept searching and searching every country that had Norton dealers and hunted down a set of mid pipe Motad decats & long open Motads - in Australia at Fraser Motorcycles Norton/Ducati. A great guy by the name of Eduardo helped me there. As of July 11th, they had 27 sets, YES 27 sets! of "long open Motads" in stock ready to ship and 3 sets of "decat Motad mid pipes". It took 1 week shipping to the Midwest/USA via DHL and got hung up at the end of the shipment leg at the DHL hub because I had to pay $55 USD duty to release the package. If you buy a set from them make sure you phone DHL's main service number when your package arrives at the last hub and pay the duty tax over the phone, a day later they will release the package to your house or installer/dealer...and nowhere on their site when tracking tells you to do this! Anyways, hope this helps! I needed help to find some pipes and Fraser Motorcycles helped me out and were great to deal with, Eduardo took care of all the import export paperwork, etc., everything via email. Good luck...and the Motad long open pipes & decat mid-pipe sound amazing! Not crazy loud but very tasteful - really a beautiful sound similar to a vintage Norton, don't get me wrong the shorties are amazing too, but either won't disappoint - my opinion! Have a good one! P.S., I paid around $1700 USD (UGGH NOT CHEAP!) for the setup and Eduardo had sent me a custom map. It came out to be 200-300 more than if I had acquired them from the UK as shipping from Austrailia and export duty that has to be covered by law there made it a little more expensive, worth it I guess as there wasn't many options for me then! Also, there are no quality blunders with these Motads, they look really clean and nice, just like the stock pipes, but they roar and sound like a Norton should!

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