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North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby jimbo » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:20 pm

Anyone know this story behind this bike? :?

Funny locked up motor that just happened with no warning. :cry:

I'd rather have a newer version with the Roadholders but it seems like it could made into something pretty nice

http://sheboygan.craigslist.org/mcy/4505919883.html
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Onder » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:04 pm

They are a money pit making a Commando look like a Honda.
You are correct that the S2 is more attractive in every way.

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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby jimbo » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:40 am

Onder wrote:They are a money pit making a Commando look like a Honda.
You are correct that the S2 is more attractive in every way.


I don't know too much about them , can you explain, the differences between the Marks? And the costly repairs?
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby BillT » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:02 pm

I looked into buying an Interceptor 4-1/2 years ago - project bike, all the important bits there, just needed assembly and items like bearings, seals, cables, etc.

I missed out on the bike by about an hour.

This actually led to my getting the Ranger, and there are some similarities between the Ranger and an Interceptor.

- Many parts are hard to find.

- Available items are more expensive. Matchless pattern rims, for example, tend to run about 50% more than Norton pattern.

- With so few pristine examples around, its hard to find decent reference pics or a museum display to compare to.

- The Enfield MkI I missed out on would have cost me about the same to restore as my Ranger - roughly 10K all in with me doing everything except plating and machining.

One big difference...

P11s are worth more than Enfields, and MkIIs are worth more than MkIs

When the Interceptor first came out, it was the fastest street bike you could buy, but by '68 there were better choices.
'73 Norton 850 Commando - 3030xx
'69 Norton Ranger 750 - P11/1289xx
'67 Matchless G15CS - G15CS/1235xx
'61 Matchless G80CS - 61/G80CS/41xx
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Matt Spencer » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:33 pm

Wonder if itll be free next summer . :? :cry: Stand Clear , wallet Opening . :roll: :x
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Triton Thrasher » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:40 am

jimbo wrote:
Onder wrote:They are a money pit making a Commando look like a Honda.
You are correct that the S2 is more attractive in every way.


I don't know too much about them , can you explain, the differences between the Marks? And the costly repairs?


The Mark 2 had a new design of engine bottom end, with wet sump.
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Bernhard » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:16 am

Saw a Berekely car with RE 692cc Constellation 50 bhp engine, with electric starter a few years ago;
The Berkeley B105 and B95 were produced in 1959 and was the odd boy in the Berkeley line up.
The B95 (95 mph top speed, hence the name) had the 40 bhp Royal Enfield 692cc Super Meteor.

Whereas the B105 (guess what the 105 was supposed to mean?) had the 692cc Constellation 50 bhp engine;

http://www.pearsy.co.uk/BerkB95.htm
http://www.pearsy.co.uk/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Cars

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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby jimbo » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:46 am

Triton Thrasher wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Onder wrote:They are a money pit making a Commando look like a Honda.
You are correct that the S2 is more attractive in every way.


I don't know too much about them , can you explain, the differences between the Marks? And the costly repairs?


The Mark 2 had a new design of engine bottom end, with wet sump.


wow that is a pretty big difference! Although in itself does not mean the older engine was inferior does it?

Maybe it includes bigger, stronger big ends, better main bearings. I thought the best part of these RE big twins were their heavy duty crankshafts.

Then I thought I read the transmisions were the weak link.

I have a mint RZ350 that I need to sell in order to consider the RE , and it ain't gettin' sold , so, it looks like I'm not gonna be a Interceptor owner any time soon.
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby jimbo » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:49 am

price dropped to $7500 , he said I better hurry, there was a guy from the east coast coming to get it ,


he must have lost his way :shock: :roll: :shock:
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby dave M » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:15 pm

Jimbo, he must have lost his mind! The price is much too high for a non- runner, who knows why this engine is locked, it could be anything from stuck rings to a seized and ruined crank. You can buy a lot of running bikes for this money, including Commandos and other machines at least as desireable and perhaps more so than this bike.

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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby jimbo » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:24 am

dave M wrote:Jimbo, he must have lost his mind! The price is much too high for a non- runner, who knows why this engine is locked, it could be anything from stuck rings to a seized and ruined crank. You can buy a lot of running bikes for this money, including Commandos and other machines at least as desireable and perhaps more so than this bike.


You never see these bikes for sale anymore and if you do not for under $10k anymore. I suppose I could consider his $7500 a starting point. I'd rather have a later model, but what are all the differences between the MK1's the MK11's ?

so far I know the MKII's RE's (1969?) have;
Norton forks,
different gauges and gauge holders, Norton?
dry sump(why?)
different fuel tank( although I do like the older ones like on this bike better)
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Bernhard » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:43 am

Main article: Royal Enfield Interceptor
During the onslaught of the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers in the late sixties and early seventies, the English factories made a final attempt with the 1962–;1968 [17] series I and Series II. Made largely for the US market, it sported lots of chrome and strong performance, completing the quarter mile in less than 13 seconds at speeds well above 175 km/h (105 mph).[18] It became very popular in the US, but the classic mistake of not being able to supply this demand added to the demise of this last English-made Royal Enfield.[19]
The Redditch factory ceased production in 1967 and the Bradford-on-Avon factory closed in 1970, which meant the end of the British Royal Enfield. After the factory closed a little over two hundred Series II Interceptor engines were stranded at the dock in 1970. These engines had been on their way to Floyd Clymer in the US; but Clymer had just died and his export agents, Mitchell's of Birmingham, were left to dispose of the engines. They approached the Rickman brothers for a frame. The main problem of the Rickman brothers had always been engine supplies, so a limited run of Rickman Interceptors were promptly built.[20]
As far as the motorcycle brand goes, though, it would appear that Royal Enfield is the only motorcycle brand to span three centuries, and still going, with continuous production. A few of the original Redditch factory buildings remain (2009) and are part of the Enfield Industrial Estate.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=royal+Enfi ... rsationid=

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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby jimbo » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:19 am

nice write up , but it doesn't say much about interceptor diffs :?



Bernhard wrote:Main article: Royal Enfield Interceptor
During the onslaught of the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers in the late sixties and early seventies, the English factories made a final attempt with the 1962–;1968 [17] series I and Series II. Made largely for the US market, it sported lots of chrome and strong performance, completing the quarter mile in less than 13 seconds at speeds well above 175 km/h (105 mph).[18] It became very popular in the US, but the classic mistake of not being able to supply this demand added to the demise of this last English-made Royal Enfield.[19]
The Redditch factory ceased production in 1967 and the Bradford-on-Avon factory closed in 1970, which meant the end of the British Royal Enfield. After the factory closed a little over two hundred Series II Interceptor engines were stranded at the dock in 1970. These engines had been on their way to Floyd Clymer in the US; but Clymer had just died and his export agents, Mitchell's of Birmingham, were left to dispose of the engines. They approached the Rickman brothers for a frame. The main problem of the Rickman brothers had always been engine supplies, so a limited run of Rickman Interceptors were promptly built.[20]
As far as the motorcycle brand goes, though, it would appear that Royal Enfield is the only motorcycle brand to span three centuries, and still going, with continuous production. A few of the original Redditch factory buildings remain (2009) and are part of the Enfield Industrial Estate.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=royal+Enfi ... rsationid=
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Triton Thrasher » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:05 am

jimbo wrote:[
so far I know the MKII's RE's (1969?) have;
.......
dry sump(why?)



Why what?

Mk 2 Interceptors had wet sump. All previous Enfield parallel twins and the Bullet singles, had a dry sump, with an oil tank cast into the crankcase and a car-type oil pump.

If you've studied the older design of oil pump, you'll understand why they eventually changed it.
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Re: North Wisconsin Royal E Interceptor

Postby Bernhard » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:31 am

jimbo wrote:nice write up , but it doesn't say much about interceptor diffs :?



Bernhard wrote:Main article: Royal Enfield Interceptor


http://www.bing.com/search?q=royal+Enfi ... rsationid=


Re; “nice write up , but it doesn't say much about interceptor diffs :?

Do you mean differences between models or something else as in diffs –rear back Axles :?:

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