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New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby LEXngton » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:41 am

Just purchased a 2016 Commando Sport MKII and wonder what you guys suggest about the following. I'd like to change mufflers so as to get a better & louder sound and I see that AF1 Racing has these Norton Short Open Slip-Ons (which are used on the new Norton Dominator) available for purchase. Also they have Norton De-Cat Crossover Pipes available.

https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts ... duct=86483
https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts ... duct=86498

My questions are these:

1) Has anyone installed these Norton Short Open Slip-Ons onto their own 961's and if so how were your results?

2) Do you recommend installing the De-Cat Crossover Pipes when putting on the Short Open Slip Ons (if so why) or is this not needed?

3) Will my 961 need to be remapped if I were to install the above named Norton Short Open SLip-Ons? (I live FAR away from any Norton dealer so this would be an almost impossible task for me to do right now).
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Re: New pips for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby richard-7 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:48 am

To me they look like the standard motad shorties. I would say YES need map update.
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Re: New pips for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby Britfan60 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:51 am

.....but it says "special order" which may mean AF1 is just the middle man and ordering for you from the factory. In that case, they are not Motads, but Norton manufactured.
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Re: New pips for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby BritTwit » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:48 am

LEXngton wrote:Just purchased a 2016 Commando Sport MKII and wonder what you guys suggest about the following. I'd like to change mufflers so as to get a better & louder sound and I see that AF1 Racing has these Norton Short Open Slip-Ons (which are used on the new Norton Dominator) available for purchase. Also they have Norton De-Cat Crossover Pipes available.

https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts ... duct=86483
https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts ... duct=86498

My questions are these:

1) Has anyone installed these Norton Short Open Slip-Ons onto their own 961's and if so how were your results?

2) Do you recommend installing the De-Cat Crossover Pipes when putting on the Short Open Slip Ons (if so why) or is this not needed?

3) Will my 961 need to be remapped if I were to install the above named Norton Short Open SLip-Ons? (I live FAR away from any Norton dealer so this would be an almost impossible task for me to do right now).


These shorties look exactly like Motads.

1. Numerous 961 owners on this forum have installed the shorties with very positive results, both appearance and performance.

2. Depends what you want from an after market exhaust. Just better appearance/exhaust note? Then no need to buy the de-cat crossover pipe.
If you want the maximum performance increase then you will want the de-cat crossover. The difference will not be great though due to the very mild state of tune of the 961, and airbox restrictions.

3. Yes, whether you buy just the silencers or the de-cat crossover too, you will need a remap for the ecu to compensate properly for the reduced back pressure of the new freer flowing exhaust.
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Re: New pips for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby BPHORSEGUY » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:27 am

Why has no one mentioned Curtis' Norton vs Motad pipes thread ????

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Re: New pips for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby BritTwit » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:00 am

BPHORSEGUY wrote:Why has no one mentioned Curtis' Norton vs Motad pipes thread ????


Good point.
Probably because Tony would like to keep the visit friendly.
Bringing up those lousy looking silencers Curtis received from Norton might cast a pall on the meeting. :lol:
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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby Britfan60 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:41 pm

I didn't have the heart to do that other than just drop the hint above. I'm sure the factory hates me enough and my parts order is still not complete.
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Re: New pips for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby BPHORSEGUY » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:29 pm

BritTwit wrote:
BPHORSEGUY wrote:Why has no one mentioned Curtis' Norton vs Motad pipes thread ????


Good point.
Probably because Tony would like to keep the visit friendly.
Bringing up those lousy looking silencers Curtis received from Norton might cast a pall on the meeting. :lol:


I am not talking about Tony or the meeting, I am talking about Lex knowing there is a possible issue with his special order!

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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby BPHORSEGUY » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:40 pm

Lexngton we could give you better advice if we knew where you are but your location seems to be missing from your signature!

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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby LEXngton » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:48 pm

BPHORSEGUY wrote:Lexngton we could give you better advice if we knew where you are but your location seems to be missing from your signature!


Sorry bout that joined not to long ago and must have left my location off. I live in Lexington, Kentucky.

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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby nopdog » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:20 am

I have the sport pipes on, they are still quiet long but look good.
I have been thinking to take them to an exhaust expert, have them cut, adjust the internals to reduce the back pressure. (make them louder).
Will this work?
Will I need a re-map?
I think I have read that It's yes to both but just checking.

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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby Britfan60 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:38 am

nopdog wrote:I have the sport pipes on, they are still quiet long but look good.
I have been thinking to take them to an exhaust expert, have them cut, adjust the internals to reduce the back pressure. (make them louder).
Will this work?
Will I need a re-map?
I think I have read that It's yes to both but just checking.

Simon

Depends. Do you still have the catalytic converter or not?
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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby byjefsm » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:20 am

If you install the shorty Norton or Motorad slip on, you will need to remap the ECU. Regardless where you live, here in the states, you can contact a dealer and ship your ECU to them for remapping. All you need to do is identify what pipe you have ordered. Also note that the maps provided by the dealers are for pipes that are authorized by Norton.

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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby BPHORSEGUY » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:55 pm

The dealer must have a donor bike to install the shipped ECU and remap it!

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Re: New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

Postby Britfan60 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:03 am

....So Texas or California, huh?
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