Matchless G80CS Frame Suitable for Road Use?

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Re: Matchless G80CS Frame Suitable for Road Use?

Postby dave M » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:47 am

Paul,
I haven't got a tank for it yet, they seem to go for quite a lot of money on E-bay as they are the same tank as on the P11s which are becoming more sought after. I might go for an alloy tank from The Tank Shop, I had a 3 1/2 gallon Manx short circuit tank for my Commando cafe racer from them and I was very pleased with it. I have collected the correct oil tank, battery and tool tray and sundry other items for a G15, I will have to reweld the mounting brackets for these, but other then that there doesn't seem much more in the way of frame mods. I will also have to alter the engine balance factor of the Commando engine to accommodate the rigid mounting. I am slowly collecting the parts I need as I am currently in the middle of restoring 2 more Commandos - one Dunstall equipped cafe racer and one Roadster, a 1965 Triumph Bonneville and a 1927 BSA flat-tank 500, so I have enough on my plate for the moment.

My chum with the G80CS engine is also encumbered with a plethora of projects and hasn't really got round to his cafe racer special yet. I have to say that the photo of the Matchless you posted looks great and I bet it would be a lot of fun to ride.

If you do a topic search using 'Commando engine into a P11 rolling chassis' you will see among other things a link to an article and some photos of a bike built by Ludwig, who was a regular contributor to this forum until recently when he hit 1000 postings and decided to retire, Ludwig has built a wonderful beast with a Commando engine, front end and shortened primary drive into a G15 frame, I hope to achieve at least somewhere near the quality of what he has done.

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Dave
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Re: Matchless G80CS Frame Suitable for Road Use?

Postby hudson29 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:07 pm

dave M wrote:Paul,
I haven't got a tank for it yet, they seem to go for quite a lot of money on E-bay as they are the same tank as on the P11s which are becoming more sought after. I might go for an alloy tank from The Tank Shop, I had a 3 1/2 gallon Manx short circuit tank for my Commando cafe racer from them and I was very pleased with it.


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This gives me an idea. From what I can see here, the P11 tank might fit right on the G80CS frame? If so then The Tank Shop already has the mounting pattern needed to make a G50 tank to fit the G80Cs frame. There would be other things to work out of course but there is a possibility anyway.

dave M wrote:I have collected the correct oil tank, battery and tool tray and sundry other items for a G15, I will have to reweld the mounting brackets for these, but other then that there doesn't seem much more in the way of frame mods. I will also have to alter the engine balance factor of the Commando engine to accommodate the rigid mounting. I am slowly collecting the parts I need as I am currently in the middle of restoring 2 more Commandos - one Dunstall equipped cafe racer and one Roadster, a 1965 Triumph Bonneville and a 1927 BSA flat-tank 500, so I have enough on my plate for the moment.


Wow, your workload is a long one. I have only three motorbike projects in the hopper now but several car & truck projects in the mix too. It will take several lifetimes at the rate I complete things . . .
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1961 Matchless G80CS, long term cafe funster project
1966 Triumph Bonneville, long term resto project
1972 Norton Commando, retro custom
1978 SR500, mostly stock
1990 Honda GB500, mostly stock
1991 Suzuki VX800, mostly stock
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Re: Matchless G80CS Frame Suitable for Road Use?

Postby Rohan » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:55 pm

I mentioned the G50 el cheapo look alikes somewhere in this discussion.

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Re: Matchless G80CS Frame Suitable for Road Use?

Postby hudson29 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:19 am

Rohan wrote:I mentioned the G50 el cheapo look alikes somewhere in this discussion.


Yes, there are a lot of SR500s done up like the great British racing singles. There is an outfit with the unlikely name of Custom House Stinky in Japan that specializes in such conversions. I can see how this would work, I bought my SR500 because it was so much like a modern Matchless. I even have a Matchless key fob for it.

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I have been giving the Matchless a great deal of thought and have even moved forward with getting another front end and brake that will look period but improve braking performance. I found an entire front end from a 1972 Suzuki GT750 that has a 4LS brake, or possibly it would be more accurate to say a dual TLS brake, one on each side:

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RHS
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This is going to look really good on the old Matchie! I'll have to see if it will polish up, if not black paint works too.

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1961 Matchless G80CS, long term cafe funster project
1966 Triumph Bonneville, long term resto project
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1990 Honda GB500, mostly stock
1991 Suzuki VX800, mostly stock
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