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Matchless desert sleds

Postby Fast Eddie » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:40 pm

Gents, would one of you knowledgable chaps be kind enough to give me a brief overview of the Norton engined, Matchless badged desert sled bikes? Model designations, specs, dates, etc would be gratefully received.
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Re: Matchless desert sleds

Postby Ron L » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:24 pm

Wow, that's a lot to try to do in a forum post!
I suggest you start with the NOC paragraphs on "The Atlas Hybrids - Parts 1 & 2" http://www.nortonownersclub.org/history
Also Roy Bacon's books contain a lot of data, although some of it is open for debate as to accuracy.

The Atlas Scrambler, G15CS, G15CSR, G15/N, G15/M, and N15 all used the same Matchless frame with Norton forks, Atlas engine, and Norton wheels. (G15/N, N15, Atlas Scrambler were Norton badged, the others Matchless). P11, P11A, P11A Ranger, and Ranger 750 were all built on G85 Matchless frame, Matchless wheels, Matchless forks, with Atlas engine. There were many details changed during the 18 months of production in 1967 and 1968, and the dates of these changes are very vague and the source of many arguments among owners.

Anthony Curzon is probably the most knowledgeable person in the UK on the hybrids as he has done a great deal of research.

Hopefully this is a start!
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Re: Matchless desert sleds

Postby Fast Eddie » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:15 am

Ron L wrote:Wow, that's a lot to try to do in a forum post!
I suggest you start with the NOC paragraphs on "The Atlas Hybrids - Parts 1 & 2" http://www.nortonownersclub.org/history
Also Roy Bacon's books contain a lot of data, although some of it is open for debate as to accuracy.

The Atlas Scrambler, G15CS, G15CSR, G15/N, G15/M, and N15 all used the same Matchless frame with Norton forks, Atlas engine, and Norton wheels. (G15/N, N15, Atlas Scrambler were Norton badged, the others Matchless). P11, P11A, P11A Ranger, and Ranger 750 were all built on G85 Matchless frame, Matchless wheels, Matchless forks, with Atlas engine. There were many details changed during the 18 months of production in 1967 and 1968, and the dates of these changes are very vague and the source of many arguments among owners.

Anthony Curzon is probably the most knowledgeable person in the UK on the hybrids as he has done a great deal of research.

Hopefully this is a start!


Thanks a lot Ron, I had no idea it was so complicated! Excuse my (further) ignorance, but who is Anthony Curzon?
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Re: Matchless desert sleds

Postby Ron L » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:26 pm

Anthony Curzon is an NOC member who has done extensive research into the Norton/Matchless hybrids and is part of a group called Hy-Cam. Curzon is purported to have compiled a manuscript on the hybrids which he intends to publish some day.

As with the books by Roy Bacon, some of Curzon's information appears to fly in the face of what we have found on our machines, but he can document many obscure changes across the hybrids production. Caveat emptor.
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Re: Matchless desert sleds

Postby Fast Eddie » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:12 am

Ron L wrote:Anthony Curzon is an NOC member who has done extensive research into the Norton/Matchless hybrids and is part of a group called Hy-Cam. Curzon is purported to have compiled a manuscript on the hybrids which he intends to publish some day.

As with the books by Roy Bacon, some of Curzon's information appears to fly in the face of what we have found on our machines, but he can document many obscure changes across the hybrids production. Caveat emptor.


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