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Postby BillT » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:43 pm

It started in college.

I went to college in upstate New York, and had a roommate who would stock up on Genesee Bock Beer when in season, and Guinness Stout the rest of the year. He showed me that beer didn't need to be ice cold to be drinkable, and a couple Guinness were more enjoyable than a sixpack of PBR.

Have always liked Guinness, but am also attracted to a variety of beers in any combination of strong, dark and bitter.

German Doppel Bocks and Marzens, Belgian Tripels, English ESBs, IPAs, Imperial IPAs, Porters and Stouts.

Lately, I've been drinking really bitter American microbrews, like Sierra Nevada 'Torpedo' and New Belgium 'Ranger', which are referred to as 'Extra IPAs'.

My wife does NOT like IPAs, but really enjoys stouts, especially Young's Double Chocolate Stout.



Anybody have a favorite out there?
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Re: I like beer

Postby comnoz » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:57 pm

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Re: I like beer

Postby nickguzzi » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:38 am

Proper Job from St Austell, Cornwall.
Golden Goose, a made for supermarket Lidl and a hoppy beer. Great after a days digging, @3.8% so you can drink lots. At only £1 a bottle, you can afford to.

The continued demise of the pub seems to be fuelling the market for decent beer to drink at home, either bought in BiB's direct to callers or via mail or through markets, pubs and festivals, as well as the supermarkets.
Like in the US, there are many micro and nano breweries around these days, making lots of fine beer. This is forcing larger (but still small scale) traditional brewers to push their wares out into more accessible outlets.
All of my local supermarkets have a large range of good quality beers at consumer friendly prices. My local Waitrose has maybe 50 different brews to choose from, any of which I would be pleased to take home.

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Re: I like beer

Postby Unclviny » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:26 am

Ayinger Brau Weisse
Ayinger Ur Weisse
Schneider Weisse Original
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Re: I like beer

Postby ashman » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:03 pm

Coppers Extra Stout a very nice South Australian beer and naturaly brewed, I love it, very strong but always wake up in the morning with a clear head.

XXXX Bitter Ale a Queensland beer and I am a true Queenslander and have been raised on it from a early age.

Any light or midstrenght beers taste like crap and makes me sick and VB taste like swamp water.

XXXX Gold is crap and taste like heavy beer gone flat.

I know i will get other Aussies that will disagree with me but who cares, everyone has their own taste, but a good beer is only as good as the mates you drink with.

Is it time for a beer yet???

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Re: I like beer

Postby BillT » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:07 pm

Ayinger makes some good Weissbiers, but they make a great Doppelbock - Ayinger 'Celebrator'

For porters, the two best I've had are Anchor Steam Porter and Fuller's London Porter
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Fuller's also make a great bitter ale, Fuller's 'ESB', which makes a nice introduction to the style

My favorite Belgian Tripel is 'Gulden Draak', followed by a Canadian Belgian-style Tripel, Unibroue's 'Trois Pistoles'
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Re: I like beer

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Re: I like beer

Postby wakeup » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:04 pm

People used to travel miles to get good draught Guinness. Probably still do!! That's draught as in draught, pulled up by the barman, not in a bottle, not blown up by CO2. There was a pub in Bradford on Avon that sold a local micro breweries brown called XXXX, beautiful. They could only sell it in the Winter, because it went off so quickly in the Summer.....IN ENGLAND!!

Almost all Coopers beers are excellent, but the stout is especially so. Makes you proud to live in South Australia! Most of the major Australian breweries produce, as ashman said, swamp water.
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Re: I like beer

Postby BillT » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:25 pm

Pretty much the only Australian beer available in Florida is Foster's, and it's brewed in Albany, Georgia, at a Miller plant. The basic Foster's blue is crap, but their 'Premium Ale' green can (formerly known as 'Special Bitter') is not bad, and comes in an 'oil can' (750ml)

You can find a couple varieties of Boag's and Cooper's, but you have to really hunt.



When I was a kid, the popular beers were 'Busch' and 'Old Milwaukee' - best when drunk ice cold, and around $5/case.

Now it seems the popular beer with the 'hipster' crowd is Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess crap is cool.
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Re: I like beer

Postby ashman » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:03 pm

Foster's is a Aussie beer but taste so bad would be the worst beer around, so bad it make me sick just thinking about it, but any natual brewed beer will taste better than any commercal beer that has so many chemicals in it to speed up the brewing proccess, we use to have a local beer here called Brisbane Bitter, I think they brewed it with sewer water, didn't last long and another thing that gets up my nose is the big beer makers are now lowing the Alachol contents and smaller bottles with out telling anyone, but it also changes the taste of your fraorite brews, my XXXX Bitter use to be 4.9% it is now down to 4.6%, might start up my home brewing again, a nice Coppers Stout.

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Re: I like beer

Postby texasSlick » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:25 pm

So these beer executives are at a conference, and take a break, and retire to the bar.

The Aussie exec orders a Fosters, saying "best beer in Australia, mates!"

The German exec orders Lowenbrau, saying "best beer in Germany, gentlemen!"

The American exec orders a Budweiser, saying "it's the king of beers, y'all"

The Irish exec orders a club soda with a twist of lemon.

All the others stare at the Irish exec and are dumbfounded. Finally, one says, "Paddy, aren't you going to order a Guiness?"

"Naw," says the Irish exec, "if you blokes aren't drinking, neither am I!"
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Re: I like beer

Postby wakeup » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:31 pm

In 1965 I was in hospital with a very badly broken leg. Every evening the nurses used to come round asking patients "Guinness or Mackeson?", both stout beers, I suppose that stout was thought to improve bloodflow which aided the mending of broken bones.

Now THAT'S civilisation!!!
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Re: I like beer

Postby BillT » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:42 pm

wakeup wrote:In 1965 I was in hospital with a very badly broken leg. Every evening the nurses used to come round asking patients "Guinness or Mackeson?", both stout beers, I suppose that stout was thought to improve bloodflow which aided the mending of broken bones.

Now THAT'S civilisation!!!
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Re: I like beer

Postby gortnipper » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:40 pm

I used to have in-laws who owned a pub out of Southampton. ExFIL used to tell stories from growing up in and after WW2 when he was given Guinness when sick for added iron to the diet.
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Re: I like beer

Postby nickguzzi » Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:16 am

Must have been about the time my best mate was in hospital having his kidney removed. "Come on now, you must drink your Guinness" nursey would urge.

In England at the time, Guinness was brewed at the Park Royal brewery. The local Irish would only drink the bottled stuff as it was imported from Ireland. It was one of the few bottled conditioned beers at the time.
Production has now switched back to St James Gate. Last time I went to Ireland, there were many many skeleton containers full of bulk Guinness being loaded for export, made you thirsty.

On a sadder note, when out shopping yesterday, I noticed that there is now a "mid strength" Guinness at 2.8%abv. And an "Original" Guinness at 3.8%abv. Shame, Shame. The proper stuff, served in Ireland is 4.2ish%abv.
Apparently, exports to hot and far distant parts are stronger, presumably for the same reasons IPA was originally.

Here in UK we have a sliding tax scale on booze, related to alcohol content, the main break point being 3.8%. There may be a lower break point too, but that is down in shandy territory, beyond my ken.
The big challenge for brewers being to make full flavoured beer at this 3.8% point. There are quite a few who succeed marvellously. The session beer is born.

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