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Konig 500 GP

Postby bwolfie » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:06 am

This is quite a good read and a very interesting story.

http://www.odd-bike.com/2013/04/konig-5 ... l?spref=fb
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby acotrel » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:38 pm

Brett, thanks for posting that. I couldn't bring myself to read all of it. Rod Tingate is a lovely guy and really suffered when Kim Newcombe died, as he picked up the pieces and got Kim's wife and effects home to New Zealand. You might enjoy this video. After Kim died Rod was offered the ride by Dieter Konig, however came home instead. The replica Konig has been paraded, not raced and unlikely to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhV0fzvH8MU&noredirect=1
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Re: Konig 500 GP

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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby Mark F » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:27 am

That is a fascinating story. Thanks for posting Brett.
I read the story and have started watching the video in the link at the bottom - Love, speed and loss.
I had heard of the Konig's but must admit I new very little about them or of how they were developed by Kim Newcombe.
Such a sad loss of a very talented man taken way too young.
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby Matt Spencer » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:16 am

Met his Dad in a fish'n chips shop one evening . Said " He died doing what he loved ," a few other words along the lines of better to die a hero than live a coward ( if he hadnt done what he believed he should ) He himself thought he would
probly regret it more if he had tried to stop him / hadnt supported him , or WHINED and antagonised him .
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby acotrel » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:07 am

Some people go through life without experiencing the sheer joy of riding a fast motorcycle on a race circuit. I look back on my early racing and I marvel that I am still alive at age 71. I would not have missed it for quids. I suggest we all need to get our priorities right and live a little.
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby 72Combat » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:39 pm

Good post, I must swat up on my Kiwi racers, I see Ginger Malloy from time to time at the club meetings and at the track with his Bulltacos, I'd talk to him but " I'm not worthy"
Saw that Konig replica a few years back at Puke, pretty cool machine.
I should read the book on Crosby as he was pretty amazing in his day too.
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby acotrel » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:35 am

I watched Ginger Molloy race the 350cc Bultaco in about 1970 - very impressive. Hugh Anderson is interesting, he told me he had the choice of working in the mines in NZ or road racing un Europe, so he became World Champ on Suzukis. He also said 'on your day, when you are good, nobody can beat you' !
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby 72Combat » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:33 pm

Found the pic of the Konig I took, and have just bought the book.

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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby acotrel » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:26 am

Is the guy on the left Buster Saunders ? Where did you take the photo ?
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby 72Combat » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:36 am

I have no idea, Taken at Pukekohe maybe 4 or 5 years ago.
I'm brushing up on my motorcycle racing history.
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby Bernhard » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:25 am

Just a thought, what would happened if someone built a replica König 500 GP bike and entered it at the classic bike race meetings :?:

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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby Chris » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:11 am

Hi

Bernard, at the Classic TT an original bike was raced by a Dutch racer who has owned it from new. That is just a beautiful thought to linger on. I know there are 2 others in the UK & the rebuild of 1 was featured in Classic Racer. CRMC rules are pretty specific about replicas & copies.

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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby acotrel » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:51 am

What can you do with an old GP bike ? The historic guys already get freaky about such things as trick frames - Seeley, Rickman etc. When historic racing started in Australia in October 1973, it was sold as a way of preserving old race bikes. It became the only source of constructors' and development classes. The guys were racing so cheaters became the norm. These days it is impossible to find a mint Manx Norton, they are all modified. One was even bored to 700cc. I suggest that if you find an old GP bike, use it for parade laps and buy yourself something different to race .
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Re: Konig 500 GP

Postby BillT » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:56 pm

If anybody is ever in or near Birmingham, Alabama, they must stop at the Barber Museum.

They happen to have this on display at the moment:
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Konig 250 GP bike

Quite a few English bikes there, too...and Brian Slark is on the museum staff.
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