Kickstart Spring and ball

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Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby plj850 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:26 am

Happy New Year guys, simple question ever since I owned my 74 Commando ( 20 odd years) I have never had the kickstart spring and ball fitted shown in the parts list.(06400 and 06399 referrred to as Kickstart Pedal Spring....)
So thought it was about time to fit it however on looking at my kickstart there is no where for it to go??? Ideas gratefully recieved.
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby L.A.B. » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:39 am

066399 & 066400

Maybe your K/S lever is the earlier type that doesn't appear to have the ball and spring?


http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... 07&Part=31
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby Diamondjet » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:04 am

I've been considering this update on a '73 850. It seems to me I would have to change both the kickstart shaft that attaches to the gearbox spline as well as the part referred to as the kickstart pedal pin. I would also need to purchase the ball and spring. That got a little pricey for me so unless I've missed something, I'll stay with my current set-up.
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby L.A.B. » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:19 am

Diamondjet wrote:I've been considering this update on a '73 850. It seems to me I would have to change both the kickstart shaft that attaches to the gearbox spline as well as the part referred to as the kickstart pedal pin. I would also need to purchase the ball and spring. That got a little pricey for me so unless I've missed something, I'll stay with my current set-up.


You can probably modify your kickstart to take the ball and spring, which would mean drilling a blind hole in the lever to house the ball and spring, and also another slightly smaller open hole in the pedal to act as the detent?
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby Flo » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:20 am

O/k, I give up. Is this a riddle?
Haven't got a clue what is being discussed here, just been through the 850 parts list & am still non the wiser.
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby L.A.B. » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:29 am

Flo wrote:O/k, I give up. Is this a riddle?
Haven't got a clue what is being discussed here, just been through the 850 parts list & am still non the wiser.



http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... &Plate=009 - Items [31A] & [31B].
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby rbt11548 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:30 am

Flo wrote:O/k, I give up. Is this a riddle?
Haven't got a clue what is being discussed here, just been through the 850 parts list & am still non the wiser.


The actual ball bearing nd spring aren't shown in the Andover pic, but they are in the Mk3 parts catalogue, page 8 parts 14 &15, they look as if they are fitted as as friction stop to prevent the foot pedal of the kickstart lever from moving about.
Just looked again, they ARE on L.A.B.'s last post.... magic!!!!
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby plj850 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:36 am

L.A.B. wrote:066399 & 066400

Maybe your K/S lever is the earlier type that doesn't appear to have the ball and spring?


http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... 07&Part=31


Thanks L.A.B now I am content to leave my kickstart the way it is not wishing to spend £85+ on a new setup.(Sorry about part nos, being lazy and flicking between Andover Parts lists and the forum :-) )
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby Flo » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:40 am

Super stuff chaps.
Mine tends to move a bit, just keep whacking it back with my foot & tightening it up now & again.
Folding kickstarts were a bit of a luxery :lol:
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby plj850 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:42 am

Flo wrote:Super stuff chaps.
Mine tends to move a bit, just keep whacking it back with my foot & tightening it up now & again.
Folding kickstarts were a bit of a luxery :lol:


Same here been OK for 20 odd years so why change, just looking for an excuse to tinker with the bike I think...:-)
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby Nelson » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:18 pm

Old Britts has a tech article on upgrading an earlier kick start lever to the MKIII ball and spring detent system. There's nothing but the ball and spring that have to be sourced.
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby RennieK » Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:41 pm

This thread has a simple fix for earlier types:

kickstart-lever-t1445.html?hilit=kickstart%20spring
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby ludwig » Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:02 pm

my (deleted) post in that thread had these pictures :

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The rest of the story is more like something for the ' roadside repairs' thread :
After taking these pics I reinstalled the pedal , but I didn't secure the nut , intending to remove it later to put some grease on it .
Of course , I forgot all about it and shure enough , lost that pedal while riding at 130 kmh on a French autoroute .
It allmost hit my brother who was riding behind me .
Luckily , it was on our way home , and I only had to kickstart it 3 or 4 times , using only the stump .
not so easy !
.. shows that a good deed never goes unpunished .
( btw ,same trip on wich I took my avatar picture )
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby RennieK » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:17 pm

Hey Ludwig, I remembered these shots and that's why I searched the thread. Thanks for re-posting!
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Re: Kickstart Spring and ball

Postby ludwig » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:41 am

When I move pics in my photobucket account , they don't show anymore .
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