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WOW! That exactly what I want to do with Ms Peel and working on a bit of practice on Trixie doing the parking lot circles and peg dragging too slow on hwy tights. Notice his sharpest turns are done with straight steering flip of forks and he never lets the rear stop spinning till straightening up. Appreciate seeing similar two legs in air after a bit of a 'unexpected' get off, for good reason with the gal right there drawomg blood out of the head on shoulders. Will be studying it closer to see why he don't trust his ride enough to leave the ground while hooking up sharper faster.
I think a Commando should be able to do all that except a stoppie as sits too low to lift rear more than an inch, so mostly just stops shorter than these moderns can.

Thought you'd like that hobot.

Yes sir I had been looking and looking for an autocross parking lot cone of someone drifting it like this fella. Only thing I could find prior was open parking lot drifters and supermotards mostly using rear brake to swing rear around not by accelerating power spins. What I still ain't seen is cutting the power to let bike jerk back up fast or even off the surface by the hi side on purpose. On Ms Peel I worked up to tripping her down with power then a short sharp cut to hi side her back up which both stopped the side off road edge but also jerked front up and around 90s to travel to land aimed for next fling w/o pilot effort. Its like a sail boat tack when the boom snaps across the deck. I'm got a lot of practice to get as handy going slow and of course add horizontal down low crash bars. THE Gravel forced me into some of this but its so loose it don't stop sliding when power or brakes or fork applied so can't work up very fast or furious in its tights like ya can a parking lot or road chicane. All these slow speed stunters install a huge rear sprocket to break loose easy or lift up easy, Ms Peel will have that option too. You can get a taste of it in a parking lot just leaning more and more and more till it scraps then hold that to see how stable fun it is for more fun and confidence in choice twisties. Once ya feel how stable hooked up its just a wrist twist to start the squirrely rear swing around but must stay on it or SPLAT.

I must have posted this in the wrong place as it got deleted. Sorry about that.



It features a commando.

biffom wrote:I must have posted this in the wrong place as it got deleted. Sorry about that.

It was deleted from the Commando section because the same "Norton" video clips tend to get posted over and over again-so I delete them if they appear too often, and that particular clip was only posted here (again) just a few weeks ago.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty27xUYtDWA

something completely different ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQKKlir6sY

Garrdner , three wheelers ( steve ) & Gardening . ( norton idleing in background )

"Your father's sport bike"
(Skip to 5:00 and fullscreen mode for a minute of desktop riding while your bored at work)

Found myself always trying to look up past the top edge of the screen to better see up the road. His helmet cam was pointed a little too low. Made me cringe a few times too!

Russ

SWEET MUSIC!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMth0mLOVrw

Vince

Isle of Man TT Clip

Those slo mo IOM video and homeslice;s flexy flyer pointer got me looking up slow motion race and crash video again to see what's going wrong or right and where best to place the corner caster wheels on Peel's cage. I mean to say they are giving em hell lifting rears going into turns and fronts leaving them. Makes my wonder if I lost touch with reality riding these balloon tire wonders > off the ground as much as it feels like, but nope here's more evidence. Ya see real racers know how to ride the wavering razor edges on greased wiggle worms but I end up over doing it right off the bat into flight envelope lessons.



Mesmerizing to get bike spun loose crossed up equilibrium then maneuver around that base line. here its slow mo smooth, out here its a rock, animal, wash out or limb, drifting right at it till cut shorter to bob around it, which a foot down won't allow.




like water skiing ugh till a bit of wake upsets the ski




here what happens when you lean em as far as you feel you need too

[quote="hobot"]Those slo mo IOM video and homeslice;s flexy flyer pointer got me looking up slow motion race and crash video again to see what's going wrong or right and where best to place the corner caster wheels on Peel's cage. I mean to say they are giving em hell lifting rears going into turns and fronts leaving them. Makes my wonder if I lost touch with reality riding these balloon tire wonders > off the ground as much as it feels like, but nope here's more evidence. Ya see real racers know how to ride the wavering razor edges on greased wiggle worms but I end up over doing it right off the bat into flight envelope lessons.



So if your rear wheel is off the ground your ass should be off the seat until the rear wheel settles back down?

So if your rear wheel is off the ground your ass should be off the seat until the rear wheel settles back down?

I should of posted this on the Flexy post of homeslice/Kenny, but depends whether jump is done in line like elite racers or side ways like hayseeds and how hi the bike jumped for the bang down whether you want to take it in or out of saddle planting. Ya don't have to do much nor can ya do much if launched like these IOM leapers in straight-ish leaps but try to get bike to land evenly as possible and keep head away form bars for the slam down. Best to have rear touch first though.

No one can do turns like me on tri-linked Ms Peel so its impossible to convey even with accurate description, its unbelievable. The leaps I talk about to let modern bikes settle before landing are done by sideways hi side leaps and you definitely better not be out of locked in center of saddle at any point during that maneuver of you will never get butt back in saddle before crashed. You can't do this type phase 4 turn w/o going in harsher faster than racers do in crash video as must go in so harsh you will crash trying to keep bike even in a toe hole of contact.

I crashed a Ninja @ ~120 mph ie: 14000 rpm in 3rd to 4th shift because it stood on rear tire and wobbled bike right out from under to low side then hi side landing on my head with bike on top. I detest unintended wheelies.

You work up to this on moderns till the bike is tank slapping juddering like seen in race video turns, then that tells ya how much faster to go in to let it-make it low side into a tank slap for the hi side save air borne long and far enough the chassis has settled down to take the landing predictably control ably. Its about sharpest way to turn but not always fastest way as harsh acceleration hesitates while air borne. Its just a way not to ever need brakes or loosing momentum in switch back chicances so can accelerate though them more like seires of short WOT upright sprints. All turning in phase 4 is done with bike off surface after the initial throw down/trip out by power and straight steering, as seen in crash of Stone movie.

On Peel I got sense of how much power for the speed and traction/temps to pull this off by snicking gear and throttle UP <where ya see all the rest hard on brake lights>, then I tip her a bit to feel her suddenly trip down by tire spin, then give more power upright and do the turn by series of little tip trips down skips till rear drifts out a bit to hook a jerk back up right for more power increase to be able to trip out the next short straight in decreasing radius turns. All turns become fast decreasing radius done this way. Allows finishing turn and a shift up out of there before normal bikes/riders have even made it to apex max tip over.

Realize it takes more than normal Combat power to do this up to 80-90 mph and it better not wheelie while pulling more forward G's than stands the moderns up on end. I don't think traction and wheelie digital control will allow moderns to do this nor balloon tires on edge enough traction and control to punch through phase two w/o oh oh's.