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Ignition module

Postby Manursr » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:14 am

Hello ,

Someone recognize this ignition module ?
I search the wiring diagram but no label on it

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Re: Ignition module

Postby mdt-son » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:28 am

Lucas Rita AB5. It*s a piece of junk. Just dispose of it.
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Re: Ignition module

Postby Manursr » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:44 am

Thanks !

It seems that without ES it work fine , what do you think ?

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Re: Ignition module

Postby kommando » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:53 am

I don't have experience of Rita's but from reading posts those that have working ones like them a lot.

And you can still get support.

http://www.hoppybikes.co.uk/moira.htm

http://www.mistralperformance.com/index.html
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Re: Ignition module

Postby mdt-son » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:04 am

Manursr wrote:Thanks !

It seems that without ES it work fine , what do you think ?


It probably did when new, but considering the Rita AB5 is now 25-30 years old, the electronics within is probably faulty and if not, at least unreliable. AB5 units are not serviceable according to AO services, and for the money required to service one, you'd be better off buying a modern unit.
http://www.aoservices.co.uk/info/RITA.pdf

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Re: Ignition module

Postby Manursr » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:09 am

And what are your advice for modern unit ?
It's a 850 mkIII cafe racer without Electrical starter and battery

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Re: Ignition module

Postby baz » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:26 am

Never had a problem with a Rita unit unlike Boyer
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Re: Ignition module

Postby gtsun » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:28 am

There is a lot of talk in past threads about electronic ignitions here. Do a search. For known reliability I would use a Pazon, I have one and it's never given any trouble. I also have a Tri-spark of the older kind with the brain in the timing cover. I like it a lot but as many here I have had one fail.. It was replaced for free and seems to be fine but I haven't used it much yet.
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Re: Ignition module

Postby Peter R » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:47 am

I have a similar system in my Commando, works fine. but don't take my word for it, according to this guy who has far more knowledge of this subject than I have, the Lucas Rita systems are the best in the business. Do you also have the rotor and pick-up unit ?
http://atlanticgreen.com/boyerevolved.htm
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Re: Ignition module

Postby L.A.B. » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:21 am

Peter R wrote:according to this guy who has far more knowledge of this subject than I have, the Lucas Rita systems are the best in the business.


Maybe was the best in the business at one time, as Pazon, Tri-Spark, Power Arc, Sachse, etc. simply weren't around then.
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Re: Ignition module

Postby peter12 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:31 am

Electrex World, Uk do a modern electronic system with a built in alternator.


TK-102D- Digital Lighting/Ignition Alternator Kit



Price: £235.00 / €277.30
(£282.00 / €332.76 Including VAT at 20%)

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Re: Ignition module

Postby baz » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:04 am

L.A.B. wrote:
Peter R wrote:according to this guy who has far more knowledge of this subject than I have, the Lucas Rita systems are the best in the business.


Maybe was the best in the business at one time, as Pazon, Tri-Spark, Power Arc, Sachse, etc. simply weren't around then.

yes elektronik sachse system is very good i have it on my triumph
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Re: Ignition module

Postby mdt-son » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:57 am

Manursr wrote:And what are your advice for modern unit ?
It's a 850 mkIII cafe racer without Electrical starter and battery


Hi,
My proposal is Pazon Altair, which is a simple, reliable and compact system backed by a 7.5 year warranty.
It works well at even low system voltage.
I'd also fit a 12V dual-output coil with a primary resistance of 3 to 4.5 Ohm, as recommended by Pazon.

Please enquire with Pazon about running this set-up in a battery-less environment.
Lucas does not recommend running RM alternators less battery ....

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Re: Ignition module

Postby Fast Eddie » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:14 am

peter12 wrote:Electrex World, Uk do a modern electronic system with a built in alternator.


TK-102D- Digital Lighting/Ignition Alternator Kit



Price: £235.00 / €277.30
(£282.00 / €332.76 Including VAT at 20%)


Interesting stuff, not seen these before.

A quick google seemed to find a lot of noise about problems.

Anyone used this stuff?
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Re: Ignition module

Postby trident sam » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:31 am

Fast Eddie wrote:
peter12 wrote:Electrex World, Uk do a modern electronic system with a built in alternator.


TK-102D- Digital Lighting/Ignition Alternator Kit



Price: £235.00 / €277.30
(£282.00 / €332.76 Including VAT at 20%)


Interesting stuff, not seen these before.

A quick google seemed to find a lot of noise about problems.

Anyone used this stuff?


Nigel,
I have Electrex ignition/lighting on my B44 Victor
It works just fine, not so sure it would be for a Commando though as the alternator output is only 50 watts if I recall correctly, though suppose it would be fine for a daytime bike only.

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