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DT head steady slop

Postby acadian » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:28 am

The perpendicular arm on my DT unit is showing signs of slop, I do oil the joint regularly so am chalking this up to wear and tear. I notice that RGM sells an "upgraded" arm, anybody have experience with this unit?
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby nortonspeed » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:03 am

I did about 2000mls on the standard Taylor headsteady (with 5/16" ball joints) when an increasing rattling sound pointed me at the completely worn out ball joints. Note I didn't lubricate the open ball joints during that period of use. I doubt if the upgraded open ball joints last must longer. Currently I am very satisfied with the CNW/Comstock headsteady with sealed self lubricating heavy duty ball joints, downside: very expensive!
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby MikeG » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:10 am

I ended up replacing both ends with joints sourced from Dorman Products. I got about 3000 miles out of the originals, and the Dorman stuff is the same quality so for the $20.00 it cost I'll just count on replacing it every few years.
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby APRRSV » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:36 am

Hi MikeG,
Do you have a part # for the replacements?

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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby MikeG » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:08 am

I believe they were 116-120 and 116-202.
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby Mike B » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:45 am

The automotive / race world makes protective rubber boots for rose/heim joints. Don't know if the link will work..but here goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pGLKSWCPyQ
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby DogT » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:47 pm

I'm pretty sure mcmasters sells the sealed or protected heim joints in lots of sizes. But you'll have to figure out which one you need. But they're probably just dust seals and won't stop the wear.
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby kerinorton » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:29 pm

Tie rod ends on small Japanese cars just dont wear out. Hint Hint. I have Ludwig style head steady's on both my commandos. No joints to wear out.

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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby robs ss » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:50 am

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What is the Ludwig style steady?
Do you have any pics or could you provide a link?
I've looked elsewhere on the forum and found them mentioned but no photos/detailed description
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby cash » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:18 am

Well I'm not sure what RGM are using but the original rose joints fitted in 2001/2 are still doing fine on my Mk3 850. They've covered at the very least 25000 miles.

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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby DogT » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:13 pm

Ludwig's head steady is a version of the Production Racer head steady. I think Norvil sells something similar as well as Old Britts. Here's a picture of it.

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I have his drawings and a little text he sent me about it.
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby acadian » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:22 pm

DogT wrote:Ludwig's head steady is a version of the Production Racer head steady. I think Norvil sells something similar as well as Old Britts. Here's a picture of it.

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I have his drawings and a little text he sent me about it.


Just ordered a set of replacement rose joints from a local bearing supplier, total cost = $15... we'll see how that works out
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby robs ss » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:05 pm

Thanks for that DogT

One for Jerry & L.A.B. - I found some pictures of these using Google Images. When you click on the picture it takes you to a thread here called Production Racer Head Steady Setup? but all the photos have the photo bucket disease,,,
However the photos are still recoverable by saving the image from Google - It may be valuable where the original posted pictures appear to be lost
These are the photos I recovered that I believe belong to that thread
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby nortonspeed » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:08 am

DogT wrote:Ludwig's head steady is a version of the Production Racer head steady.
I have his drawings and a little text he sent me about it.


Interesting :!: Much appreciated if you would share his drawings and text with us :?:
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Re: DT head steady slop

Postby L.A.B. » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:30 am

robs ss wrote:One for Jerry & L.A.B. - I found some pictures of these using Google Images. When you click on the picture it takes you to a thread here called Production Racer Head Steady Setup? but all the photos have the photo bucket disease,,,
However the photos are still recoverable by saving the image from Google - It may be valuable where the original posted pictures appear to be lost
These are the photos I recovered that I believe belong to that thread


It would be a heck of a job, and although I'm sure most members here wouldn't mind, copying other people's images without getting their permission would be a breach of copyright.
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