Hi from Australia

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Hi from Australia

Postby ashman » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:18 am

Hi all

Just joined the site I have own my 850 Norton when I brought it new in 1976, its a 1974 M11 but have converted it to a 1957 wideline featherbed frame in 1979 using commando front end and rear end handles a lot better than the Commando, have just done a complete rebuild and fired it up Saturday, started frist kick, it has a new Joe Hunt Maggie, crank balanced for the Featherbed frame, SS cam, lots of head work, 40 over size pistons, belt drive primary, it has been built this way sence 1979 and is very reliable, but had to replace the crankcases as I had hairline crackes on the main oil seal side ( hence the rebuild ) the exhaust have been made so they tuck close to the frame and foot pegs sit high and I run no stands so I don't scrape nothing (HeHe) the bike handle GREAT, it very fast ( 130 MPH ) with the SS cam I just got to watch it as it runs freely past 11,000 RPM's if I let it ( standed was about 6,500 RPM before it valve bounced), if any one like to know more about the bike feel free tha ask any qeustions, I have done all the work on this bike myself from making engine mounts to everythink, but it is still 100% Norton ( except for the Joe Hunt and oil tank ) this bike is about half the weigth of the Commando and it does feel like riding on a featherbed...

Will post some pics soon when I workout how to do it...

Ashley
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby pelican » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:27 am

sounds cool! can't wait for the pics
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby Hortons Norton » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:42 am

11,000? Come on! :roll:
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby ashman » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:33 am

Here is a pic of the bike...

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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby MexicoMike » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:23 am

11,000? Have you checked the tach and tach drive to be sure you don't have one that reads 2x actual RPM? :)
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby bmwbob » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:09 am

half the weight of a Commando :?: 200 Pounds :?
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby hobot » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:41 am

OK Ashley,
Your post and claims are within hobot's experience with big Twin
Norton specials. I believe you and will now quiz you for juicy details.

My 1st bike was dedicated dragster P!! with head and tail to get
a tag. Its tach was marked at 9000 rpm and it loved it but
often more than me or street tire could take. it would flat walk
away from screaming memie Kawi 750 triple two smokes.

My 2nd bike a '72 Combat after rebuild, replacing major damaged
items with unneeded racer bargain parts, told me her name Ms Peel.
Main significant item was smaller OD, 4.5 lb lighter steel flywheel
and cases re-enforced welded.
By accident, d/t Combat head away for repair, to break in I put
on a small 28mm port head, 34 mm single carb with a mis match
step at head plus a expedient crud cut thick manifold gasket
with ragged edges protruding into the air flow. Once run in
and I began WOT runs over red line, found it'd flat run
right out from under if first reflex wasn't hard bar gripping
and seat planting with a lean forward. A big improver was
the 2-into-1 megaphone with just a end plate and 1 3/4" hole
shot gunned out, in prior frustration of dull power band.
WhooWHOOO!
Up to 90 mph-7600 rpm in 2nd would out sprint sport bikes that
had to back off d/t wheelies. Top end indicated 137mph/6000 rpm.
Everything I did to engine after that just subtracted from
its performance, dual 32 carbs. Before I got to put back the
way I liked it, throttle stuck WOT on a cold starts and
rev'd so hard it slapped my hand off freaked out throttle
snap shut and threw me off balance so tach needle
disappeared for a few seconds after I finaly got throttle
shut and then a few more seconds freewheeling for
needle to show up and slowing be able to focus on it
stilling bouncing of peg stop then stopped. Took a minute
for smoke to clear, but started right up again and I rode
it another 2000 mile, but down on power to push huge
winter wind shield to 110 mph.

Rebuilding as 920 + blower because Peel with rod links
can handle rather more loads in corners than fat tire moderns that can hardly
touch their power until about straight up straight ahead.

So what put the extra spunk and rpm limits in your go getter?

What limits your turning rates and radius?

Steven 'hobot' Shiver
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby Tintin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:14 am

hobot wrote:Your post and claims are within hobot's experience with big Twin
Norton specials. I believe you and will now quiz you for juicy details.


:roll: Yeah, right..... :roll: Apparently there is no forums in this magic parallel universe where 11krpm 110bhp-plus sub-100kg water-injected super charged Commandos outhandle the latest HoYaSuKa gear....


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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby swooshdave » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:05 am

Tintin wrote:
hobot wrote:Your post and claims are within hobot's experience with big Twin
Norton specials. I believe you and will now quiz you for juicy details.


:roll: Yeah, right..... :roll: Apparently there is no forums in this magic parallel universe where 11krpm 110bhp-plus sub-100kg water-injected super charged Commandos outhandle the latest HoYaSuKa gear....


Tim


If we started one I know who the first two members would be... :mrgreen:
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby hobot » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:11 am

Tim, don't confuse Peel's wimpy past performance with what's in store.
Your attitude is exactly the reaction I got from squadrons of heated sports
riders when I innocently asked if I could tag along.
So much so its become a big hobby of mine, whipping eye rolling
smirks off - that I now seek to create on purpose with a >
"Hey can I tag alone, till bored?"

I seek recoiling reactions to Ms Peel, so not upset with ya.
Get in line with growing list of smirkers Ms Peel may really
upset in the name of obsolete Norton rubbery magic carpets.

Hell's Bell's rump rod Peel turned my own concepts upside down
inside out -totally unexpected shock to easy exceed my prior
bench mark at Super Bike Corner school level experience.
Still fabulously flabbergasted 24/7 in case ya can't tell.

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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby Tintin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:42 am

hobot wrote:Your attitude is exactly the reaction I got from squadrons....


...of former NOC-list readers who are equally bored with this "Me and my Commando outperform every single vehicle known to man and defy the rules of physics" palaver served in a grandiloquent marinade of utterly incomprehensible language? :mrgreen:

Sorry, but the perspective of Hobot and an Antipodean Hobotesque counterpart with similarly "creative" views on engineering and grammar is just a bit scary. :wink:


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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby hobot » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:09 pm

Tim,
Might be cause for pause I'm so public with the wonders I want to share.
If I was just un-tested bluffing - speculating - wishful fantasy posting,
that should make you tinge with joy once new Peels rubber work
gets track day comparisons to find objective pecking order.

Mean while I've some mysteries only another 130 mph rim scrapping
narrow tire gleeful Norton Twin rider can relate too.

hobot -
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby swooshdave » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:47 pm

Tintin wrote:Sorry, but the perspective of Hobot and an Antipodean Hobotesque counterpart with similarly "creative" views on engineering and grammar is just a bit scary. :wink:


Tim


I have to admit that it's the first time on any forum that I've seen the words "Antipodean". :lol:
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby ludwig » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:11 pm

ashman wrote:.. if any one like to know more about the bike feel free tho ask any qeustions,.. this bike is about half the weigth of the Commando ..

Nice looking bike , but I can't see where this huge reduction in weight comes from ,..
I suppose you have put it on a scale ?
What is it exact weight ?
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Re: Hi from Australia

Postby swooshdave » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:22 pm

ludwig wrote:
ashman wrote:.. if any one like to know more about the bike feel free tho ask any qeustions,.. this bike is about half the weigth of the Commando ..

Nice looking bike , but I can't see where this huge reduction in weight comes from ,..
I suppose you have put it on a scale ?
What is it exact weight ?


I think the chainguard is aluminum. :roll:
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And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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