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Elec. Ignition choices.

Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Britfan60 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:08 pm

My Boyer went bad on my T140D. It would break down after about 20 miles and then restart when cooled off. Currently running points until a decision is made. Should I go back with that brand or are there any others you folks consider to be a better system? The Lucas on my other one is original electronic ignition, 37 years old and still working like a champ.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Jagbruno » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:28 pm

Usually these symptoms could indicate a damaged coil...
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Britfan60 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:01 am

True. but its run two seasons perfectly on the points. I would just like to go back to electronic.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Jagbruno » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:02 am

I am running basic Pazon Surefire on two of my bikes, it never failed AND most importantly doesn't change its setting if he battery voltage happens to be on the low side.

On my Laverda I had installed a most excellent programmable Sachse Electronik unit, more expensive but perfect always.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby grandpaul » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:07 am

I am no longer going to recommend Sparx that I've had 99% success with (literally one failure out of 100).

...but I'm still using them exclusively on my own bikes.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Britfan60 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:23 pm

grandpaul wrote:I am no longer going to recommend Sparx that I've had 99% success with (literally one failure out of 100).

...but I'm still using them exclusively on my own bikes.


Why would you not recommend that with such a success rating? I wouldn't hunt anybody down if their recommendation fails. :?
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby grandpaul » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:43 pm

More and more detractors and failure reports.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Triton Thrasher » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:30 am

grandpaul wrote:More and more detractors and failure reports.


Wonder if the early ones were better.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby grandpaul » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:20 pm

It's been 11+ years, and the only ignition that I've had reported was way back from '06.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Britfan60 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:10 am

Has anybody tried the "more than three times the price" digital programmable model? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pazon-Electroni ... 8U&vxp=mtr
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby chasbmw » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:49 am

I agree that it sounds as if the coils are dying on your bike, rather than the ignition. I would test the coils under heat stress.

If you are fitting an aftermarket ignition follow the manufactures advice on choice of coils, HT caps resistance etc etc and make sure that the system is reliably grounded and that parts such as the ignition switch and ignition cut out switch don't intermittently lose contact under vibration. Otherwise you might end up chasing your tail all around the world and end up blaming the ignition manufacturer.

I have used ignitions from Silent Hektik, Sachse and Boyer, all have worked well. I would not use an ignition that mounts its "black box" inside the engine, because it puts the components under unneeded stress from heat and vibration. Away in cooling air is better even if it's more difficult to fit.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Britfan60 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:47 am

I changed the coils prior to removing the ignition. Same symptoms. Stuck in the points, runs great. No stalling.
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Re: Elec. Ignition choices.

Postby Frankie17 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:19 am

take a look at the Vape ignition ( Wassell ) performs very well and much better construction than Boyer / Pazon analogue units

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