early tailight on an 850

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early tailight on an 850

Postby britbike220 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:41 pm

I searched and couldn't find an obvious answer soooooo, I have a 750 tail light and brackets necessary to fit to my 850 and of course nothing goes smooth or is easy when trying to convert anything............It looks as thought the 850 tail light fastens in two places to a bracket over the rear frame loop. The 750 tail light fits in the same place except there are two holes instead of one on the lower frame loop part of the fiberglass housing. I hope this makes sense. Anyway I am not to keen on trying to drill two new holes in my stainless fender spaced evenly and wonder if anyone has done this and how you did it. Concerns are drilling holes off center. If I want to replace the original ugly tail light I will have two holes visible in the fender. Last resort and I'm sure this is expensive, buy another stainless fender to do the conversion and this would have to be for a 750 and were they drilled or sized different. Thoughts, suggestions, how too's and general ideas all welcome. I would post pictures, but I am not very good at picture posting.

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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby swooshdave » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:00 pm

It might be able to be done. You have to make an adaptor bracket. Not sure if it's worth it for you.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby britbike220 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:52 pm

an adapter bracket where? What does it look like. I already have the parts, spent the money and really need to follow through just don't know the best option, all ears here.........
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby swooshdave » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:41 pm

britbike220 wrote:an adapter bracket where? What does it look like. I already have the parts, spent the money and really need to follow through just don't know the best option, all ears here.........


Yeah, um, hold on. I can't do everything! :mrgreen:
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby britbike220 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:41 pm

I thought most of you guys were miracle workers, didn't mean to get pushy :wink:
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby swooshdave » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:07 pm

britbike220 wrote:I thought most of you guys were miracle workers, didn't mean to get pushy :wink:


Yeah, I'll mock something up later after the kid goes to bed.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby Fullauto » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:26 am

I did this job on my MK1 850 and I didn't have to drill any holes. The standard 750 number plate/indicator mount lasted all of thirty minutes (Andover Norton part-made to original spec------NOT!) I then bought a CNW mount, much better/stronger, but I'm very sure that the same two holes were used on the lower part of the guard. I do remember spending two hours with a Dremel to get the glass bit to fit though.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby Coco » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:14 am

You'll have to drill a hole to fit that light on an 850 fender.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby swooshdave » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:45 am

swooshdave wrote:
britbike220 wrote:I thought most of you guys were miracle workers, didn't mean to get pushy :wink:


Yeah, I'll mock something up later after the kid goes to bed.


Sorry, I forgot to do this last night.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby swooshdave » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:50 am

Luckily for you I'm not working again today.

Now I don't remember exactly how the 850 tail light mounts but I hope this helps. If you get a chance to post pics of your early and later tail lights and the fender it might help.

In the meantime I'll post these pics.
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This is an aftermarket tail light fairing (Norvil) so I don't know if they differ from the stock ones. Do you have the brace shown here? Is it too far from the hole on your fender?

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This is how I have the fender and fairing mounted at the front end. It's been shortened to fit the seat (also aftermarket).

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Will you also use the bottom bracket to hold the light?
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby batrider » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:38 am

My stock license plate holder like this one lasted about 2 years until it cracked and fell apart. I used an old Brit license plate frame probably from a Matchless. But I think you could beef up the existing piece by adding a backing plate to it. The rear tail light really jumps around when the engine is running.

Yeah I know... pix.

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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby swooshdave » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:42 am

batrider wrote:Yeah I know... pix.

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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby britbike220 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:23 pm

I have the same norvil stuff as you Dave. the bracket is crap. I had to dremel the top to fit the light. Anyway I am still at work and when I get home I'll take pictures of both mounting points and fender. At this point I am thinking Ill have to drill two extra holes which means I will have to buy another stainless fender if I can find one. I'll post back in a bit.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby illf8ed » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:51 pm

britbike220 wrote:I have the same norvil stuff as you Dave. the bracket is crap. I had to dremel the top to fit the light. Anyway I am still at work and when I get home I'll take pictures of both mounting points and fender. At this point I am thinking Ill have to drill two extra holes which means I will have to buy another stainless fender if I can find one. I'll post back in a bit.


I'm not up to speed with the square taillight fairing, but sounds like you mean it has one fastener above the rear frame loop and one below while the 750 type (I am familiar) has one above and two below. If that's the case you're going to have to drill the stainless fender to attach teh 750 taillight. Could be wrong but I don't believe Norton made a stainless fender that fit with the earlier taillight. Even the '73 750 that hcame with stainless fender came with the 850 type taillight.
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Re: early tailight on an 850

Postby britbike220 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:31 pm

Exactly the description I was looking for illf8ed. I was hoping a bracket had been made by someone that I could make a copy at a machine shop that would allow me to attach the 750 light to my existing 850 fender. I can't bear the thought of drilling a perfect fender. Here is a link to four pics one of the 850 mount and a side shot of the light and two of the 750 light.

http://community.webshots.com/album/577899521yOdszS
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