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Re: Dirttracker

Postby Hortons Norton » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:46 pm

Like this?
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby Mark » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:52 pm

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Dave Aldana #13
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Alex Jorgenson #44
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GOOGLE THOSE NAMES for a couple of the baddest Norton racers in history !!!!!

CR Axtell anybody ???

Dallas Baker & Trackmaster frames were pretty trick back in the day

You still see them raced today in the vintage Open Twins Class


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Here's a link to a cool Video of a norton showing how it's done and schooling the field:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHY5zXP-Gs4

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby hobot » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:37 pm

Oh My Oh My Oh my, Bad To The Bone, these are what hot Norton twins really are to me down deep and what I most want my special to be deep down. Its just not full fun till something is loose or skewing like crazy! I am depressed, Pike Peak get paved to the top this year. No matter its way safer to ski tarmac than loose stuff.
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby Diablouph » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:39 pm

Diablo’s law:

Sexy looks are inversely proportional to inherent practicality.
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby hobot » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:29 pm

Diablo’s law: Sexy looks are inversely proportional to inherent practicality.


Ha, I lived on one of these a few years in two states as my only transport as poor student having more fun than legally allowed or should of afforded. P!! had head and tail light added is all. Its my basic impression to the bone of Norton performance in minimalist form - for ever more.

hobot logic - forms follows function - experience brings wisdom - so Ms Peel gets permanent luggage race as part of the chassis actve suspension for efficient beer and feed runs. I'll also concede to pure flat tracker by a front brake, cushy seat and lights and fenders. Ok crash bars or else.
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby lcrken » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:41 pm

mkane77g wrote:
lcrken wrote:Just to reinforce what dave M said, none of these bike (in this thread) are Commandos. All are custom frames, with no isolastics. Commando engines, yes, but Commandos, no.

I don't recall ever seeing a Commando flat track bike, but I'm sure someone, somehwere, has tried it.

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Ever hear of Ron Wood and his fabulous norton flat trackers?


Sure. I've know Ron for over 30 years, and he helped me a lot when I started racing Nortons in the early '70s, but his flat track bikes aren't Commandos either. I think you missed my point. These are custom built race frames with Commando engines, but no isolastics. They are great bikes, but not Commandos.

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby Hortons Norton » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:43 pm

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby mkane77g » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:44 am

You are correct, I did miss your point. When my father brought my bike home it had a modified stock frame before being replaced with the Baker. It has a 55" wheelbase most of the time. The Ron Wood's latest Norton weight was near 280lbs.

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby lcrken » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:27 pm

This is Ron with his 1978 Ascot Grand National winning Lightweight bike. The only Norton to ever win a Grand National.

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These are shots of one of his earlier (1974) big tube framed bike.

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They are now owned by Norton enthusiast (and friend of our own Holmeslice, Kenny Cummings) Jamie Waters, and are in good company, as you can see.

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Jamie has a bit more info on the pictures, as well as his other bikes, on his web site, http://www.jamiewaters.com/motorcycles.html

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby hobot » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:34 pm

In case you have missed my point - I'm besides myself to field isolastic Commando with rather more power to mass than these world class examples that are not isolastic d/t not handling well. I know what its like to live on a solid 360 twin that weighs under 300 lb. Just think how many Commando Norton could of sold if they stayed smooth as well as out handling other bikes. I would stradle my P!! to lift it and spin around to leave garage front first as easier to dodge other stuff on way out.
I love the looks and behavior of air cooled twins with nothing but engine frame and tires blocking view through it. Will take a bit longer but not much else on my mind 24/7.
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby hobot » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:43 pm

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdeWT-dzYTU&feature=related[/video]
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby mkane77g » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:59 pm

I've seen that bike in person.

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby hobot » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:28 pm

Here's low down on current crop of flat trackers. Hard smooth main path is not really dirt its almost asphalt stable. The side lines show real nice lovely soft forgiving dirt w/o a single rock sticking its head up, yet they call that the marbles? Real marbles on arrowheads w/o a boot down, now that tightens my loins. Any who see what a hot shot pilot feels on half dozen contenders in league with the Norton examples. I just know if they feel better with a toe down then maybe not comfy hooked up loose enough.

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Re: Dirttracker

Postby willh » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:05 am

Nice one Hobot,

I notice you picked the KTM photo,
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This has been giving me some conflicting feelings. This is what pushes my buttons best. Not far from what I'm riding now. Only thing is the P11 would probably be forgotten about as made redundant for the dirt road terrorizing and bridge jumping, my favorite solo fun day events.
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Re: Dirttracker

Postby JimC » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:37 am

This is Ron with his 1978 Ascot Grand National winning Lightweight bike. The only Norton to ever win a Grand National.


And on July 21, 1973, Aldana won the Ascot TT in Gardena, California, on that machine (Norton). It marked the first major U.S. victory for Norton since the Grand National Series was founded in 1954. Five years later, Alex Jorgensen would give Norton (Ron Woods Norton) its last Grand National victory, on the half-mile track at Ascot Park. Source: Motorcycle Hall of Fame

I knew Nick Deligiannis at the time, who was the tuner/owner of the Aldana ridden bike. I wasn't there the night David won, but I was told the bike caught fire immediately after the race.
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