BSA B44 victor Redline?

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BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby rick in seattle » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:25 pm

Anyone know the redline on a BSA Victor? Nothing in my manuals of the archives.
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby swooshdave » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:55 pm

When your teeth start to rattle out? :mrgreen:
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby grandpaul » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:10 pm

Just short of "BOOM!"

...wait, Nortons go "BOOM"; BSAs go "BLAM!", or was it the other way 'round?
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby norbsa48503 » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:33 pm

Rev till the power goes flat, Shift. If you bend a push rod you held it in the flat spot too long. About 5500-6000. Stock form they just don't breathe good enough to over rev in top gear. In the lower gears you could over do it.
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby grandpaul » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:14 pm

Inevitable next question - "How long is too long?"

hee hee
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby gtsun » Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:36 am

Hi. I have a very nice original 68 441 Shooting Star so once in a while I keep a eye out on Ebay etc for BSA stuff. A few months ago some one had what seemed to be a never used original Smiths accessory Tachometer made for the BSA 441's. I don't know how true it would be but you could try to find a picture of one (or go to "completed items" in Ebay to find it) and see what they marked the red line at. I would be interested to know how high I rev mine when I'm pushing it. Though in truth I don't terrorize the little thing (or my raggedy bones) to much.
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby kommando » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:50 pm

Limit is 7K rpm, but your own fillings will give out before.
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby Unclviny » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:49 pm

You need to talk to Steve (441cafe I think) over at www.britbike.com, he runs his 441 cafe at Bonneville!.
Yes, he's sick (I love him, man!).

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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby rick in seattle » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:00 pm

Gitsun,

I bought an NOS tach from Brit Cycle, which is the event that started this thread (there seems to be a recently-discovered cache of these NOS tachs). The tach is good looking, works very well, and is in new condition. There is no redline marked on the tach; the specs from Rupert Ratio's manual shows that the B44 develops 28 hp at 6500 rpm, and a "safe" maximum at 7000. I've added a redline to the tach at 6500 just to preserve the originality of the beast. My bike is a complete rebuild with 5100 original miles on it, and runs smoothly up to 5000 rpm or so, where I usually shift.
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby motoracer8 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:49 pm

I have a Cheney BSA with a 441 engine that has been modified some, on the dyno it makes 33 hp at 6200 rpm, it will rev to 7200 with a 8% drop in power, max torque comes at about 5600 rpm. They are a long stroke engine and not real happy at high rpm.

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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby pbmw » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:07 pm

I've got a couple of them. I've never seen one with a tach though. I'd imagine about 6500. No need to wring it's neck though...
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Re: BSA B44 victor Redline?

Postby frankdamp » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:46 am

Your vision would get blurred and your kidneys start to delaminate before you hit the red-line!
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