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Another Battery Question... Help

Postby PhiloMcGiffin » Fri May 21, 2010 12:02 pm

:?: When I bought my '74 Mk IIA - Non Electric Start, the P.O. did not use any battery hold down method... I'd like an "elegant solution" (functional and visually appealing). Does anyone have any suggestions? Bungie cords and duct tape do NOT qualify. I can't seem to find the proper OEM parts. I plan to use a WectCo Maintenance Free AGM battery as recommended in the other battery thread.

Your suggestions are welcome and appreciated.
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby swooshdave » Fri May 21, 2010 1:34 pm

PhiloMcGiffin wrote::?: When I bought my '74 Mk IIA - Non Electric Start, the P.O. did not use any battery hold down method... I'd like an "elegant solution" (functional and visually appealing). Does anyone have any suggestions? Bungie cords and duct tape do NOT qualify. I can't seem to find the proper OEM parts. I plan to use a WectCo Maintenance Free AGM battery as recommended in the other battery thread.

Your suggestions are welcome and appreciated.


The cross bar and straps are available from the regular dealers, are they not?
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
With a full spares department, a clean workshop, and kean young mechanics.
And ask them if theres a Grumpy Old Bloke out in the Hills, who knows how to fix Real Motorcycles.

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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby tpeever » Fri May 21, 2010 3:37 pm

PhiloMcGiffin wrote::?: When I bought my '74 Mk IIA - Non Electric Start, the P.O. did not use any battery hold down method... I'd like an "elegant solution" (functional and visually appealing). Does anyone have any suggestions? Bungie cords and duct tape do NOT qualify. I can't seem to find the proper OEM parts. I plan to use a WectCo Maintenance Free AGM battery as recommended in the other battery thread.

Your suggestions are welcome and appreciated.


I just use a couple of zip ties hooked together. Works great.
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby PhiloMcGiffin » Sat May 22, 2010 7:26 am

SDave... I don't think so. I've tried several places (Old Britts, etc) and no luck. I don't mean to be rude; but zip ties do not qualify as "elegant"

Thoughts?
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby pvisseriii » Sat May 22, 2010 7:55 am

PhiloMcGiffin wrote:SDave... I don't think so. I've tried several places (Old Britts, etc) and no luck. I don't mean to be rude; but zip ties do not qualify as "elegant"

Thoughts?

Elegant? Really? Inovation may be the key word and you, Philo, should commission yourself to take the reines on this one. Please, let us know what elegant, yet functional, solution you come up with.
CommandoSpecialties has your straps.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Norton-C ... 35a98b35ac
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby kommando » Sat May 22, 2010 11:22 am

Those battery straps are for pre MK2A, the MK2A uses a single strap with a clip on one end and the strap wraps around a pin on the other. If you can track down the BSA unit single strap for 69/70 model year it can be made to fit.

For the genuine strap you need one of these

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one of these

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and a pin

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I got mine from RGM.
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby B+Bogus » Sat May 22, 2010 1:17 pm

Kommando beat me to it!

Just to clarify the differences - the MKIIA has a plastic airbox and the battery is mounted across the frame. The other external clue is the Dzus fastener in the sidepanel...

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The pin locates the strap at the bottom of the battery next to the oil tank, and the buckle locates in a similar manner at the opposite side.
Plenty of room for a PCV too ;)

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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby rgrigutis » Sat May 22, 2010 3:40 pm

Velcro works. Just don't get carried away w/ it. Or a 1/2" aluminum angle held down w/ 1/4" threaded rod thru the bottom of the battery tray.

Form follows function. Elegance happens when people refine the form of the function. I think I recognize elegance but know I don't always create it.
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby swooshdave » Sun May 23, 2010 5:13 pm

rgrigutis wrote:Velcro works. Just don't get carried away w/ it. Or a 1/2" aluminum angle held down w/ 1/4" threaded rod thru the bottom of the battery tray.

Form follows function. Elegance happens when people refine the form of the function. I think I recognize elegance but know I don't always create it.


I'm really leaning towards velcro, especially since I already reused the stock strap holes for other things.
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby BrianK » Sun May 23, 2010 6:56 pm

If using elegant in its literal meaning, zip ties certainly qualify. Simple and effective. That's an elegant solution.

If by elegant you mean something else, perhaps not.

I use velcro and zipties with a half pound lithium ferrous battery. And yes, it's elegant!
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby batrider » Mon May 24, 2010 6:12 am

Got tired of losing the expensive pieces every time a strap disintegrated. (Also the stock setup is the opposite of elegant.) I used a heavy rubber battery strap from a Harley. Something like:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RUBBER-B ... ccessories

It was $1.99 when I bought one. Made some ends out of 1/8" aluminum sheet scrap to adapt the metal ring of the strap to screw heads sticking out which fit inside the existing holes in the battery box used by the stock hold-down. This thing really holds the battery down too. If the rubber ever breaks I can re-use my ends on a new strap. (Not home right now to take a picture.)
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby pvisseriii » Mon May 24, 2010 9:33 am

batrider wrote:Got tired of losing the expensive pieces every time a strap disintegrated. (Also the stock setup is the opposite of elegant.) I used a heavy rubber battery strap from a Harley. Something like:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RUBBER-B ... ccessories

It was $1.99 when I bought one. Made some ends out of 1/8" aluminum sheet scrap to adapt the metal ring of the strap to screw heads sticking out which fit inside the existing holes in the battery box used by the stock hold-down. This thing really holds the battery down too. If the rubber ever breaks I can re-use my ends on a new strap. (Not home right now to take a picture.)


That's almost like a bungee cord, ain't it.
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Re: Another Battery Question... Help

Postby swooshdave » Mon May 24, 2010 10:20 am

pvisseriii wrote:
batrider wrote:Got tired of losing the expensive pieces every time a strap disintegrated. (Also the stock setup is the opposite of elegant.) I used a heavy rubber battery strap from a Harley. Something like:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RUBBER-B ... ccessories

It was $1.99 when I bought one. Made some ends out of 1/8" aluminum sheet scrap to adapt the metal ring of the strap to screw heads sticking out which fit inside the existing holes in the battery box used by the stock hold-down. This thing really holds the battery down too. If the rubber ever breaks I can re-use my ends on a new strap. (Not home right now to take a picture.)


That's almost like a bungee cord, ain't it.


Almost.
You probably want to go into town, and find a up to date Jap Bike store,
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