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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby mschlake21 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:37 pm

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turns out i still had one with it back in the bike. wish the tank was steel rather than fiberglass
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby 850cmndo » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:38 pm

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mschlake21 wrote:ok i can figure it out for sure, i will post as well. i actually ended up having the clutch depressor tool. and i have four manuals that i found in the bottom of one of the boxes. I've been studying that parts manual like nobody's business.

for those interested, serial # 309398, motor and frame match


Engine number?


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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby gortnipper » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:26 pm

These two sites will also help you figure out how some stuff comes apart and goes together

Commando Workshop Companion
http://www.doov.com/apps/nortoncompanion/

Old Britts
http://www.oldbritts.com/dismantling.html
http://www.oldbritts.com/ob_tech.html
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby htown16 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:08 pm

Big D Cycle in Dallas has a good reputation for all things Brit bike. You might make a parts list and pay them a visit, would save on shipping and give you a chance to deal with some knowlegable folks in person. Also, if you are farming out parts of the build like machining they would be able to take care of you.
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Replacement steel tanks are available. I've heard the ones made by EMGO are decent quality, the ones coming from India are more risky as to fit and finish. Don't bother screwing around with fiberglass with ethanol in the gas.
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby mschlake21 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:50 pm

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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby nortriubuell » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:04 pm

That is so cool !!! Very happy for you, as that is a really great find. I'm REALLY curious if you called Chris Wedman about your Norton yet ... at:

http://www.wedmanmotorsports.com/

If I was betting money, I would bet he did your motor and tranny (of course I could be wrong too.) As far as the gas tank, I would buy an "EMGO" repop and have it painted what you want. Of course, I recommend Brent "the Vintage Vendor" ... cause' he has done such great work for me. You know the metric bikes and obviously XS650s, so you'll have NO problems, as Nortons are super easy. Good luck :D
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby mschlake21 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:41 pm

thanks for your kind words, i appreciate it. i haven't called him yet, but the most the previous owner could remember was that a guy named Gary rebuilt it. not much to go on, but i will likely call after i get done with finals next week. i really want to get started on it, she just looks so bored over there in the corner haha
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby mschlake21 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:18 pm

long time, no update. Went with the steel tank from emgo. It needed a little work after i got it, had a ding on the topside and already had contact rust throughout. Cleaned it up and sent it off for paint, side covers went with it. Sent them to Brent Budgor aka The Vintage Vendor, for paint, and he did a very stand up job, they look great. Frame went to powder coat, so that will be cleaned up as well. The forks are laid out on the garage floor at the moment getting a full rebuild. Polishing wheel is ready to go for the fork lowers, and wheel hubs, should look nice when i get it done. i also set the motor up on my bench and ran it, no issues so far! For now though, ill just post a couple of pictures of how it looks now... Everybody will have to wait to see it together Image

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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby mschlake21 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:07 pm

i did end up getting the rest of the story for those interested. The story i was told was, well... slightly exaggerated but its still pretty darn cool. When i bought the bikes i got them from a young guy, who sold them to me with the story i was originally told. it was actually an estate sale here in Oklahoma City where the buyer (young kids dad) ended up with quite a few rare classics. He apparently missed out on a few due to price tags getting too high (supposedly an ariel or two and some 20s-30s era bmws) They were all in pretty poor condition, but all found in a warehouse-type shed behind the house (not the basement). i guess the PO bought as many of the bikes as he could and the estate administrator transferred all of the titles to the bikes by simply signing them. after the sale, the administrator attached all of the titles to the corresponding bikes, and they were moved for storage and forgotten since 1994. Dad is not interested in them anymore and was selling the property, so his kid sold it to me. Im trying to track down what happened to the rest of the bikes, i have the original owners name, id love to know more about him. If anybody on here lived in oklahoma in the 70s-80s and was a part of the bike scene back then, please let me know. thanks
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby tpeever » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:52 pm

mschlake21 wrote:First question. Im used to working on japanese bikes. I've done two or three of them. I'm trying to reinstall the norton clutch, and i can't find clutch bolts/springs anywhere. and instead find this goofy plate made of spring steel. Does this serve this purpose? does it even have clutch bolt/springs?


Welcome to the wold of Norton Commando! I think you scored! Like the others said, you need the shop manual and parts book. The Commando clutch, when set up properly, is a beautiful thing.

Good luck!

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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby Tin Man » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:19 pm

Great find. I'm jealous.
You might want to get some pool noodles or foam water line insulation to wrap around the frame, to keep,from bunging it up.[quote][/quote]
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby grandpaul » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:25 pm

Just at first glance from your photos, it looks like the frame was not properly masked at the main mounting points for the engine. If that is the case, it is probably worse at the transmission cradle which must have not only been masked at the bolt holes, but also the outer 1/8" of the main isolastic mount tube (same for the front mount), as well as the flats where the swingarm bushing faces slide in place...

I hope I'm just seeing things that are not there; if not, you have a few hours with a dremel burr and some sandpaper in your future!
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby cyclegeezer » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:16 pm

Tin Man wrote:Great find. I'm jealous.
You might want to get some pool noodles or foam water line insulation to wrap around the frame, to keep,from bunging it up.


A friend of mine recently suggested bathroom shower rod covers, sold at Home Depot etc. He says they're the ideal size for his Guzzi V7 frame. More durable and thinner than insulation.
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby mschlake21 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:21 am

I didn't have the cradle powdercoated, it already looked pretty good. You are right... the powder coated screwed up. They had pretty explicit instructions too. Powder inside the swing arm too! I've already been at it with the Drexel, frame is clear now.
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Re: 1973 Commando 850

Postby grandpaul » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:35 am

Yeah, for the first time in over 10 years, I had to address the parts on the '75 MkIII I'm doing right now. Pain in the butt (and neck, and back, and shoulders...)
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