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1963 Norton Featherbed Build

1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby paul cardy » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:02 am

Hi

I seem to have arrived here by a rather circular route, so bear with me if this goes a bit off subject.... I am currently racing a R69 BMW airhead in the UK National Sprint Association & the Sultans of Sprint European drag race events and when the bike is not being raced we take it to various events to meet people and see their bikes. Recently Sammy Miller had its once a year open day with lovely weather planned we loaded up the bike ( its called Velocity Baby ) when we arrived we were asked to display the bike in the courtyard in between the Manx Nortons, Brough Superiors, Biannci, BMW Rennsports and a whole gathering of loveliness. Got talking to a guy called Les Patterson with a bike could Superior who told me all about the 6 Salt Flats records he holds and some of the issues with running a bike on salt - lets just say it was on my bucket list but not so sure it is any more. So while we were taking in the bikes and soaking up a cuppa I bump into 3 guys who used to be members of a bike club my dad used to be a member of, one of the bikes was for sale and it turned out that there was also a almost complete bike in parts also for sale....You know where this is going.

Pete the owner of both bikes and bits gave me his address and on the way home I thought it would be rude not to go and check it out, the bike was in bits, 650 engine, 19 Borranni rimed wheels some nice stuff so I left with a head full of plans. I was lucky enough to have been asked to display Velocity at the "Bike Shed" custom bike show in London this year so it was also time to think about a new bike build with maybe the potential to have something worthy of another shot in 2018. So this current collection of bits would need to be turned into something left of centre or at least that's the plan.
Anyway back to Pete and the bike, I first asked if it could come sans engine - Yes, then after a lot more research I wanted to go with just the frame and a race faring and start the whole thing from scratch... Pete could I just buy the frame and fairing - err NO. so began a bit of a long and protracted back and forth but ended we me as the proud owner of a Featherbed frame + swingarm V5 & race fairing - Epic.

So far its been unloaded from my van and the photos I am hoping to attach taken on the sunny Saturday just gone. I have never owned a Norton / Triumph or for that matter an BMW until we built Velocity, so this is going to be an adventure. I have spent almost every Saturday for the last 5 years building bikes with my Dad ( Pete) and were planning on making this another 1 to add to the BMW and the Harley Ironhead Boardtracker.

If your still reading thanks for taking the time, not all the posts will be this long winded but we have a deadline of next May so we better get a wiggle on.... err photos to follow then........

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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby paul cardy » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:33 pm

Sorry not that good without pictures but the photobucket £399 price tag is never going to happen..

Took a visit to Andover Norton couple of weeks ago as they local to me, nice bunch and sure they will come in handy at some point in the project.

Not done much but spend money so far the tail of the tape is as follows:-

Triumph 810cc engine and 5 speed gearbox, belt drive primary, Amal carbs and a host of other go fast goodies - came complete with engine plates which will be one of the first jobs to fit up the engine in the frame and see how it lines up.
New Gremica 230mm 4L/S front brake
New Borrini 18 front rim - Rear out of stock hopefully in by September...
New twin pull front brake lever
Conical Triumph rear hub - needs a mechanical refurb but looks to be in good condition.

Couple of calls planned for this week - new Cerini 36mm front forks and billet yokes - new race fairing and some parts for the rear hub hopefully have some things to be getting on with this weekend.......

should keep me busy for a couple of weeks

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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby Fast Eddie » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:55 am

The 810cc Triumph engine will have a Norton crank I assume?

This combo can make for a very nice set up.

Do you know what type and size of Amals you have? What cams are in it? And what has been done to the head?
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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby paul cardy » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:56 am

Hi Tony

This is a list of the spec
TRIUMPH 810CC TRITON ENGINE 5 SPEED GEARBOX , BELT DRIVE CONVERSION.
TRIUMPH 6T PRE UNIT CRANKCASES, NORTON CRANK CONVERSION BALANCED BY FRED COOPER AND POLISHED, NEW BIG ENDS, THE TIMING GEARS HAVE BEEN LIGHTENED, TONY HAYWARDS BELT DRIVE CONVERSION.
NEW CLUTCH FITTED WITH RACE SPRINGS.
390 SIFTON RACING CAMS ALSO NEW CAM BUSHES.
REBUILT K2F MAGNETO
THE CYLINDER HEAD HAS BEEN REWORKED AND BORED OUT TO 33MM INLETS, FITTED AND FED BY AMAL MK11 CONCENTRIC CARBS.
RACING VALVE SPRINGS, NEW GUIDES, BLACK DIAMOND VALVES, NEW VALVE TOP AND BOTTOMS..
TRIUMPH 5 SPEED GEARBOX, NEW CONVERTA EQUIP ENGINE PLATES.

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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby Fast Eddie » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:04 am

paul cardy wrote:Hi Tony

This is a list of the spec
TRIUMPH 810CC TRITON ENGINE 5 SPEED GEARBOX , BELT DRIVE CONVERSION.
TRIUMPH 6T PRE UNIT CRANKCASES, NORTON CRANK CONVERSION BALANCED BY FRED COOPER AND POLISHED, NEW BIG ENDS, THE TIMING GEARS HAVE BEEN LIGHTENED, TONY HAYWARDS BELT DRIVE CONVERSION.
NEW CLUTCH FITTED WITH RACE SPRINGS.
390 SIFTON RACING CAMS ALSO NEW CAM BUSHES.
REBUILT K2F MAGNETO
THE CYLINDER HEAD HAS BEEN REWORKED AND BORED OUT TO 33MM INLETS, FITTED AND FED BY AMAL MK11 CONCENTRIC CARBS.
RACING VALVE SPRINGS, NEW GUIDES, BLACK DIAMOND VALVES, NEW VALVE TOP AND BOTTOMS..
TRIUMPH 5 SPEED GEARBOX, NEW CONVERTA EQUIP ENGINE PLATES.


Nice, if you have decent CR that should be good for around 70 rwhp and loads of grunt!

Should be a fun bike!
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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby paul cardy » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:24 pm

Thanks Eddie

I am hoping the engine will work out and 70HP would be nice If I also pay attention to weight.

I have been posting pictures of the start of the build on FB still not sorted out a photo storage site that does not want paying....
So over the weekend I trial fitted the engine which looks to be ok in that the bolts line up need to wait and see once I have a rear wheel..

The billet yokes and GP forks look to be really nice quality and having offered up the brake drum this fits between the lags which was a bit of a worry but will need a new spindle which we may make but spacers will be needed. The brake stays which were supplied with the drum wont work with the forks so I will put these up for sale and make some new ones to suit.
The original faring will also be put up for sale as I wanted a different look fairing so this will also will be up for sale.

Looks like the swingarm has rubberised bushes that may be ok but want to replace these with some bronze bushes but that's going to have to wait for a bit.

The petrol tank which was made for another make bike is a very good fit and is my best find so far and although it needs a bit of a tweak to be a perfect fit looks really nice.

The front rim arrived over the weekend so will be measuring up for some spokes so I can build the wheel and get the front end complete - need road legal tyres as this bike is going to be dual purpose so looking for some track day tyres if such a thing exists for a 18 tube tyre ? recommendations please.

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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby Fast Eddie » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:06 pm

Avon Roadriders.

Lots of good info here:

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/roadrider
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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby paul cardy » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:38 am

Thanks Eddie on the tyres

So been busy trial fitting the engine it came with new engine plates and these seem to line up nicely - need to do chain alignment but that will have to wait till I have a rear wheel rim.
Bought some ali plate to make a head steady and the stainless steel bends to start fabricating the exhaust.
Had a touch when I found a spare series 5 front spindle left over from my BWM Drag Bike build which is the correct dia for both hub and the 2 sizes in the forks - not checked it for length yet but hoping the next time I build up the forks we could be in clover.
Looking at building the front wheel and checked out google images to find how the front hub is laced up - normally go with Central Wheel Services for spokes but with the spoke configuration I have seen the spoke which lays over the outer edge of the hub and has to turn into the middle ( if that makes sense ) looks to need a different set of dimensions to get this correct from the spokes that would run on the inside- not what I expected and need to get some advice but as the whole thing is non standard that may be tricky - oh the challenges.
I am selling a few sundries off to recoup some funds and need to kick this forward now I have plenty of bits to play with....

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Re: 1963 Norton Featherbed Build

Postby paul cardy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:42 am

Bit of an update

Front wheel is off with a local wheel builder to be laced up rim and has had the satin black treatment, having looked into buying spokes to my design it looked easier to give it built professional, full report when its done.

The conical hub has been given the lightening treatment with holes in the side and is sitting on the desk beside me awaiting a full rebuild with new bearing, shoes and various other sundries which were missing from the brake plate , these new parts have come from LP Williams who seem to be user friendly. Rear Rim is still not yet available from the same source as the front so will need to be patient but very keen to get this thing on 2 wheels so I can look into the exhaust build.

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